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Bond Don't know who you refer to but you Viruses and Bacteria have things in common too despite being two very different things. I hope P2F don't feel out of place amongst the other Gold sponsors at P4H, the first one I looked at had a revenue over 300x that of P2F. They have a speaking slot, do we know who will stepping up for that?
You learn something new every day. LIke today, I learned that de-rampers don't know the difference between a virus and bacteria. I wonder what stupid things they'll say tomorrow to expose their pig-ignorance? I can't wait for a positive RNS. That'll have them scurrying away with their tails between their legs, and give us some peace for a week or two!
They want FFP3 masks, not type IIR masks which P2F currently produce. The article you linked shows they bought a load of fake FFP3 masks. They want quality FFP3 masks. Have P2F got the sales team to convince them to go the type IIR pro larva route?
I don’t think the NHS will be purchasing your German counterfeit masks anytime soon UntiedGuy….
Well at least you’ve bought 20, hahaha…..
Last week Parliament's spending watchdog revealed that 2.1 billion items of equipment worth more than £2bn - out of a total of 32 billion items ordered by the health department - were unsuitable for use in medical settings.
Here you go UntiedGuy, and this is in our own NHS at the moment…
I believe the NHS are looking at the moment for a high grade replacement! I wonder if they will find it at the NHS Premier Procurement Event on the 15th of September 2021. You can see the gold sponsor in the door way wearing the MHRA accredited medical masks…. Oh, suits you Sir….
Covid: One million masks for NHS fail high-grade safety tests https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-57999162
ToothFairy - who does he pay?
AND not with TEETH - surely?
Could be a busy night for you tonight DrM but please refrain from paying when under the influence of drink and the moon
Thank you Nina, I tend to keep my research to myself as I research different topics to most posters. Change management, structures and principles, occupational traits and dynamics, integrated systems and complexity, that’s where I gained my masters…. I tend to use this BB as a bit of fun to be honest. Have a nice evening…
May I just add that there are plenty of FFP2 in the market and plenty that claim antibacterial effectiveness, but not many antiviral ones. I therefore do not see them as a better fit. I do see them as a good potential partner for licensing the a-virion material though.
Great link DrM.
You do not need to look too much to conclude that the German CE is a little suspect since they state they have been certified in “a SGS laboratory “, but do not state WHICH or where? Does it meet EU standards?
No breathability data either.
Thanks poorinvester, have a nice evening mate….time for a beer….
So you are saying that their mask has been on Amazon for the same time as P2F…P2F has got more reviews and is an Amazon choice… What’s the balance there UnitedGuy…..your agenda is transparent, you are a deramper and a complete crook…
I can confirm DrM, And united guy has admitted on numerous occasions, that he deramps to get a cheaper entry. I’m surprised, that this time he sold for a even smaller profit.
Wrong again UnitedGuy….give me some credible proof that the German mask is better..
Maybe look at the Amazon reviews and those nice pictures of substandard masks, scroll down the link…
The only fraudster is you UnitedGuy who freely admits to deramping to get a cheaper entry price…. Another lie or is it the truth…I think poorinvester will confirm…
Show me where I said this was a licensed deal UG…..hmmmmm you can’t…Another lie by UnitedGuy, on a roll today….
Dated 21/05/21 looks like the CE2163 is looking very suspect…
Do some research UG before you start commenting, you Sir are a complete embarrassment trying to rob innocent investors of their hard earned money….go hang your head in shame…
Not at all UG…
Just a little light reading for you and your German mask….very balanced…
According to press reports, an Italian company specialising in import-export with China, following independent tests, has reported that most FFP2 face masks on the market do not comply with the standards laid down in Regulation (EU) 2016/425 on personal protective equipment. Most of the 20 types of mask tested did not, apparently, pass the filtration capacity tests(1).
The face masks in question bear the CE 2163 mark – certification provided by the Turkish company ‘Universal Certification’ to a number of Chinese companies selling the devices in Europe. OLAF is said to have been informed of the case(2).
A similar complaint was made on 21 January by a German newspaper(3) which spoke of 60 types of certified mask with a testing turnaround time of around 20 days compared to three or six months from a national certification body.
If the EU regulation allows for compliance checks on personal protective equipment (PPE) to be subcontracted out, in actual fact the lack of monitoring could undermine the confidence of final consumers, and this would be exacerbated by the emerging cases of fake certification.
Can the Commission therefore answer the following questions:
1. Can it confirm that OLAF is conducting an investigation into the Universal Certification company?
2. What measures does it intend to take to secure the trust and health of European consumers with regard to the personal protective equipment which is now being used on a daily basis?
Absolutely spot on,
He’s been rumbled.
DrM back peddle all you like but you was trying to pass this off a a licensing deal. You sir are a fraudster and a complete joke.
The certifier of the German Mask has a code NB2163, this is a Turkish outfit…. They will have the same problems selling these masks as we’ve had. It’s certification is also not as prestigious as ours…MHRA etc… Myself and PI were merely trying to find out the background of the German mask. Obviously, UG jumped to numerous ridiculous conclusions and also said Nina was in fact Poorinvester….
Unitedguy is laughable at times….
Nina, a balanced and relevant post so thank you. You are correct the Germans are not making anti viral claims just antibacterial so it is not as effective but it is an FFP2 which is a better base mask to add tech to.
As it happens I needed some more masks so ordered the German FFP2s from Amazon and we will see what they are like.
I am afraid I have to agree with UG on this one. I don’t think there has been a licensing deal with this German manufacturer. That should have been RNSd if it’s the case.
Furthermore the German mask states that it has been tested, but not for how long it’s effective and “avirion”is not mentioned anywhere.
“Self-Decontamination: The outer layer of the mask has a Nano Copper Ion Technology which has an antibacterial effect. Its effectiveness has been tested and confirmed by an SGS laboratory”
This might be competitive, if they actually kill the virus and have lasting effectiveness similar to Pro-Larva.
The fact that nothing is mentioned in their description tells me that they don’t have the same effectiveness. This is my opinion of course and i kindly request the Twitter crew not to copy and paste my messages on that platform as statements.
I am not on Twitter by the way, but my search has lead me to such posts.