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I went to docs 9th January so who knows?
Fruit. I checked with the boss and our flu was end Nov 2019. USA reported first cases Jan 2020.
Same with me. I have flu jab but had flu like symptoms early Jan. Maybe it already swept through us? I suspect that any deaths around that time would be put down to normal flu but wouldnt there have been more deaths than usual, tests done and red flags waved? We need an antibody test to be sure.
I have a flu vaccine each year and don't usually get flu as a result. However both of us had bad flu at the beginning of 2020. Some may remember my man flu complaint. Hopefully it was connected would be nice to know we have some resistance.
Charlie156 not wanting to be too depressing but I agree with you, I don't think we are seeing a true reflection yet and our numbers and USA are bound to peak dramatically over next few weeks. If it does take a tighter grip in Africa, India, Pakistan and other poorer countries I dread to think what the numbers will be. I use this link for information are you using this to breakdown the numbers or do you have another source?
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries
These Covid-19 closed cases stats are frightening. Up to March 11 with the virus mainly circulating in Asia, the death rate was 6%. Since then the epicentre has moved to Europe and the closed cases death rate as of March 28 has risen to 18%. It gets worse, the increase in the closed cases between March 27-28 was 12,406, and the death rate 3,462. That's a death rate of 28%. Why is the death rate 4 times greater than it was 17 days ago. Has the virus mutated into a deadlier strand. Asia's experience of SARS seems to have prepared their populations for this pandemic. Chinese/S.Korean family members infected are removed, aggressively if necessary, and placed in quarantine. EU families, with the exception of Germany(who are also mass testing), appear to be allowed to remain in situ, passing it on amongst themselves. A lot of the carnage seems to be happening between 30 and 50 degrees latitude. This is starting to resemble Spanish Flu. Sorry for the rant, stay safe.
200iq thanks and again some differing opinions on the weforum article, others are suggesting the virus could srvive on porous items such as cardboard for up to 3 days on this link it says 24 hours. I guess the small positive from this article is it says porous surfaces such as paper, cardboard and fabrics are much less likely to hold viable amounts of the virus.I did glance at the technical and that links to one of the articles I put on as I say there is lots out there. I still think it is sensible to take all the precautions anyone can.
Here's the more technical stuff.
https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMc2004973
That fact that it lives for longer on surfaces is probably why it's spreading so easily.
Here's the latest from a reputable organisation.
https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2020/03/this-is-how-long-coronavirus-lives-on-surfaces
I should also add, that is why it is important RMG get the right PPE equipment to all areas, sanitizers that still don't have them, gloves etc to reduce any risk.
Morning all, I know there are many conflicting opinions/reviews out there and I have read many of them, to me the risk would be if the person handling is infected or hasn't followed the guidelines. These 2 articles are quite informative. IMO
https://www.livescience.com/how-long-coronavirus-last-surfaces.html
https://fullfact.org/online/coronavirus-surfaces-packages-china/
200iq, "Virus can live on paper for 24 hours and on plastic for 3 days".
Is this documented? If that's true then we could all be in big trouble :-(
Sure they are working to Public Health England guidelines. PPE and distancing sure they are managing. Look at what they can do positively. I had prescription tablets delivered this week. Test kits, essential packages and mail
Virus can live on paper for 24 hours and on plastic for 3 days.