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well of course the Welsh actually made it to Patagonia..............
Sorry Deux that I have postet here ! I am done ! you are one idiot that all !
According to 560sl: "If you know a little history , after the 2nd world war. there was also talks that the Israeli State will be in southern Argentina ,but they chose the Middle East ! "
This is complete rubbish and is a regurgitation of the Anti-Semitic Conspiracy Theory called The Andina Plan.
According to Wiki:
"The Andinia Plan (Spanish: Plan Andinia) is a conspiracy theory that alleged plans to establish a Jewish state in parts of Argentina and Chile. It is partly based on an exaggeration of historical proposals for organized Jewish migration to Argentina in the late 19th and the early 20th century (which, however, did not include plans for a Jewish state there). The name and contents of the plan have wide currency on some circles of the Argentinian and Chilean left-wing[1] and right-wing, but no evidence of its actual existence has ever been brought up, making it, according to the US-based Anti-Defamation League and the Israeli research institute Jerusalem Center for Public Affairs, an example of a conspiracy theory".
DEM
Congratulations 560sl on building up a multinational property empire - although it must be inconvenient having to cross the Andes each time you travel between your investments.
The water supply in Chile was indeed privatised some years ago and over 90% is owned by Suez, Aguas de Barcelona, Marubeni and the Ontario teachers' pension fund. Don't quite see any link to Israel.
Water supply in Argentina is mostly State controlled - so once again I see no link to Israel ? Please enlighten.
DEM
ps Your preoccupation with water reminds me of a previous poster 'Hydrant' with whom you may be familiar?
Yes DEUX and you know why , I have land in Patagonia ! and you would not believe how many rich American and Europeans own huge property in southern Chile ! nuclear conflict its pretty safe because its far away and there is always a Wind coming from the Pacific and blowing !
That's very interesting 560sl - I was certainly unaware of the acquisition of water rights. For obvious reasons, Israel is far more into Resilience planning for the future, than most countries. I once met a Civil Contingencies expert who commented that in the event of an all-out nuclear conflict, the only relatively safe places to be were New Zealand, Patagonia and the Falklands. I guess with global warming the Antarctic Peninsula might also qualify.
DEM
If you know a little history , after the 2nd world war. there was also talks that the Israeli State will be in southern Argentina ,but they chose the Middle East ! Also Israel is buying a lot of Water rights in southern Argentina and Chile since the last 20 years ! there planning is different to the west and Europe ! I am more than sure that there is more to it ! as Navitas is a small company there are. others behind it with lots of money ! and for the Waterrights that's a fact ! I know it 1st hand as I have property in southern Chile !
Hmm, Mexicans dont care about FI and the Argies
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/uk-and-mexico-sign-trade-deal
Mirasol - Making Stanely a City already HAS poured fuel onto the fire !
Navitias going from nothing to suddenly being in command of 2 major Oil fields isn't normal usually, at least not without building some income 1st.
Think you are a bit naive buddy
"I am a fool to think it might not just be an Israeli private company, but one with Israeli government connections ? Could the UK gov be pulling a few strings in this too ? FI really, really needs this and its time to pull 2 fingers at the Argies and be clear there will be NO negotiations on their fictional claims."
yes - you're a fool - or rather very optimistic.
There is no need to pour more petrol on to the FI/Malvinas claims - it's pretty quiet right now. The Israeli Govt in the recent past has offered Argentina strike aircraft and fighters - the only reason they didn't turn up was that the Argies couldn't afford them. As blueprint said Navitas are a public company , not an arm of the State.
Other than that you're right
WOW. I have no idea why LSE starred out r-a-c-e-ist
SecretBlueprint - OK. You know what I saying/thinking though right? What they have already done is pretty amazing though.
I don't think Putins quick death would stop the shift away from globalisation. Alot of Russians are very ****** and anti West/NATO, and very much in favour of protecting the motherland. Its Western arrogance to think otherwise. If anyone thinks the Russians wont be up for a long haul with or without Putin I think they will be sorely disappointed, we could end up with someone worse! Peoples tend to end up supporting their own countries/governments even if they are in the wrong. Russia has nukes, nobody is going to try and just rush in with a land force and subdue Moscow, even if they could. This could last years and years ! Russia looks to be able to secure the East and the South, they haven't failed as completely as the Western propaganda is telling us.
Ralph. Navitas Petroleum LP is not a private company. It is a publicly listed limited partnership on the Israeli stock exchange.
Yes it might seem crazy to expect some wiggle room over tax, but that’s only because we are in an energy crisis where the big oil companies are making a lot of cash. But how quickly could that change, Putin gets toppled, Russia moves out of Ukraine and everyone is friends again, then oil drops like a stone to $60!
LTT
I am a fool to think it might not just be an Israeli private company, but one with Israeli government connections ? Could the UK gov be pulling a few strings in this too ? FI really, really needs this and its time to pull 2 fingers at the Argies and be clear there will be NO negotiations on their fictional claims.
Stanley becoming a City is a bigger move than what it 1st seems. The Queen didn't just wake up one day and say "lets make it so", this has been done for a reason, with many people involved in the decision and they will be well aware of the imminent Argie meltdown over this . It was a huge and powerful signal ! Also long overdue !
Ralph, the world and his sister are demanding windfall taxes on energy companies and you are suggesting tax breaks instead. No hope of it.
I think they will get the money from they same group they tapped up for the Shenandoah project. Don’t forget the partner at the Navitas presentation said it was the first time in his career he’d ever had the total cash up front.
It seems to me Navitas are the deal makers, they are connected, it 2 years they will be reaping the rewards of Shenandoah, but I’d like to think they will have FID ‘d SL before then and are sanctioning the project. They don’t seem to hang about, case in point being they just presented an updated CPR and talked about a 20well $1.3B project before FIG have signed off!
LTT
Yeh, but $45 break even should and could be sweetened, lets face it this could be their last opportunity for decades, maybe ever. Already been 12 years of nowt. I think they need to give something more here. But I guess the other side of coin is that they dont want to be run all over either and give too much away. We will see by the end of this year I guess.
If the FIG cannot have a fair whack of tax in a $100+ environment, when can they? The FI tax regime is one of the cheapest in the world
Not always Ovets, I did buy at 92p didnt I.
Having a few glasses of wine tonight Ovets, I'll try not to make that 4 bottles LOL.
SecretBlueprint - OK. Well once bitten by PMO and all that. Isn't it about time FIG helped themselves a bit and dropped some Tax ?
Well I suppose he's right - 2 years!
Don't forget, Ralph's always right.
Ralph says "They wont have any income from Shenandoah for years. Where will they get the money from for SL?"
Income from Shenandoah will commence in just over 2 years from now. It is bankable now for development debt.
The money will come from Brooklyn, the Tel Aviv of the west.
OK. They have pulled Shenandoah together. Now they aim to do it all over again. Could they be biting off more than they can chew ? They wont have any income from Shenandoah for years. Where will they get the money from for SL?