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"Oil is down ~ 4% and has not gone up yet today but RDSB gone up nearly 5% from opening price, what is that telling us?"
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That the opening price fall was over done!?...perhaps.
Low oil prices could be a boost to the general economy and save jobs too. Just a thought.
“ Just remember Moneygecho that people will be losing their jobs, just so you can get a desired entry price.”
How RDSB share price causes people losing jobs? Low oil prices could lead to lay offs in oil industry. Oil is down ~ 4% and has not gone up yet today but RDSB gone up nearly 5% from opening price, what is that telling us?
Holding up very well considering.
100% correct. ABZ is still suffering.
No problem. I work in oil and gas myself and Aberdeen has barely recovered from the last crash, this is the last thing it needs.
My comment was tongue in cheek, sorry if it offends I don’t see sp £5 maybe walk down towards 950 again then back up.
Furryboots yes it’s clear what’s happening, friends lost jobs others on the new grant im down to zero work est for year maybe 40% income drop.
Hear hear! Furry
Just remember Moneygecho that people will be losing their jobs, just so you can get a desired entry price. After all that's going on in the world right now, your attitude sums up everything that is wrong.
sub 10 would make me happy , sub 9 be a very good entry point
Sub 9 by Friday.
We could see sub 1200p tomorrow.
Whoa! People are losing their minds here!
Do you recall the time you were off school for 2 days. When the teacher asked you why. You answered because you had a cubic foot. Nice to know you haven't changed a lot. You could make a Good stand up comedian. Knock em dead, with the line "shell £20 in the near future" . God that would win the Perrier award at the Edinburgh comedy festival.
Oh happy birthday for the 1st of April. Don't you recall I went to the same school as you, but left when I realized how thick you were after a week.
I recall you asking the teacher if the 11 plus was a trick question. Give my regards to your family. The Addams family isn't it. Nice to know you take time to read all my posts. It's never to late to educate yourself, even someone with your disorders. Sounds like you want a signed photo & t shirt. Just so you know char333 is on the front of the t shirt. Just so you know which way your walking. More posts to come, just to keep you entertained while your not going to school during the coronavirus.
As they say, imatation is the biggest form of flattery. Doubt I'll be eating my shorts anytime soon. Only time will tell. You forgot to mention Tesco btw. Still 2 outta 3 isn't bad for someone of your limited intelligence.
Hi, if this is over £20 in the near future I'll eat my shorts. People keep saying the world needs oil & gas. Yes, that's a basic truth. But, yes there's always a but + this one's the size of Kim Kardashians, no one knows when the pandemic will ease. Or the suadi v russian squabbles will cease. But however you look at it there's a vast mountain of oil. Saudi's & Russians flooding the markets, oil price plummeted. Coronavirus stopping billions of people traveling through planes, trains + cars. So little use of fuels. So she'll have mountains of both, but who's buying or using. And at what price are shell selling. And more importantly can she'll make much profits in these circumstances. Errrr, no. These wild swings in American market's, show how as usual the yanks haven't a clue what's occurred or how to react. The yanks have 1 answer to everything, bomb the enemy's. Well that isn't going to work here. Yanks are born capitoists No one on the planet knows how this plays out. But in its most simple form, companies not making money means pain for the shareholders. How many companies have froze, cut, stopped dividends the last week or so. There is no magic wand in this situation. Its basic maths. I hope I'm wrong.
BOTS and tampers/derampers won’t make any difference to shell share price. This is a multi billion pound company and will go back to over 2000 a share in near future. The world needs oil and gas. This is one of this biggest companies in the world and what I or you say won’t make no difference. The only people that will make differences is the Russians and Saudis along with trump.
I agree with that 110% poker. It was a decent way of making a bit of money even 10 years ago. Not so good today.
Too many people just cash out when they are showing a modest profit (for reasons of fear of losing)... so SP's don't
really progress that much.
Also the BOTs and stupid rampers /derampers. Tis a pain in the arras!
Keep well all. Surprised we are not doing all that well today here. I'm hangin in though as I'm invested for divis going
forward.
Grant
you are welcome.
The 20th Century was a time of "investing"...we are now in a very different ball game.... the amount of data available and the use of the internet to try and create opinion about what the future holds has created a VERY different environment
"they are also manipulating the sinking oil price, lol...."
I would suggest you look at the derivative market ....that will tell you all you need to know ..
could you explain how this manipultion actually works, please ...given that there are ..well..hundreds of thousands , if not millions of traders, speculators, buyers,sellers, all involved in the worldwide buying and selling of oil that trades not only on a day price but a futures price ...
I am all ears
Pokerchips
I just want to say thanks for this post . It sets out, details and explains things in a concise clear way to people like myself, who have just joined this forum, and do not understand all the terminology and complexities involved in market movement.
It is also written without over inflated self importance and doesn't contain reams of certainty that would involve some sort of Mystic Meg capability. There are a few on here who seem to predict with utter certainty. Surely if that could be done, we would all be ridiculously wealthy. So it can't.
I have no ego on this board. I am a rank amateur with some spare cash, who can afford to lose it. I just don't know how to invest very well on my own. My father was a Merchant Banker for the now defunct Singer & Freidlander, but I didn't follow in those shoes. However, somethings do come back to me. Such as "This is not a gambling table. It's an investment club with risk. Can you afford to loose all that money"? This was back in the 80's but thats what I am coming here with. I wish he was around now . He would probably tell me I've not diversified enough yet, but here is to learning.
This is what I wanted when I signed up.
Please keep it coming
Grant
Should have waited for 9 quid.
chris1308
There is nothing wrong with short selling as such...it is only those who are long and want higher prices that hate it....but when you are on the sidelines the same people love it... it does need regulation though and strict rules to ensure it works properly.
There are many,many perfectly good moments when a share price of a company has overheated and although the longs ( private investors are mostly long) wouldnt really care too hoots if the bulls continued to pump its merits ....it does need someone to say....hold on, hang on a moment...this is ridiculously expensive ....
A car has an accelerator and a brake for two obvious reasons....
The share price here recovered too quickly and the dividend buyers also moved up the price....the oil price and gas price are dep into dangerous territory for their producers..and April demand is going to plummet...let's face it
The share price movements are geared purely to the demand and supply of shares at any given moment.....it could be that at any given moment only 0.5% of the company shares are being traded but if all of the holders of those shares want to sell them then the price could drop a reasonable % before any buyers agree to take them off their hands.
Right now there are HUGE risks , so a buyer only wants to pay a low price.....whenever that sense of risk shows signs of calming then the seller will ask for more for their sale ...and we saw buyers thinking this had hit the bottom so the demand to buy back the shares grew and with the number of sellers drying up the price obviously rises....buyers wanted the shares and were prepared to pay more for them.. you arent going to get an increase supply of shres at under 1000p when there is a sudden interest in them.... this isnt toilet roll supply here
It isnt rocket science and it is VERY unlikely SETS shares, the HUGE size of Shell has much manipulation going on, it is more like a sceismic needle that responds instantly to the slightest tremor
The share price here also moves to the decision of the oil/gas derivative market ...the more PUT Options are placed on oil or gas , the more the share price will fall
How MM's can keep up with the thousands of trades on behemoths like Shell is..well....you tell me...