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I expect that if there was anything worth knowing, good or bad, we would have been told.
Otherwise we just have to wait for the results and any update we might get then.
Yep , expect they are doing the absolute minimum required.
I am pretty sure that the regulations regarding disclosure of news are followed to a Tee.
The best we can hope for is a bod who cares about the company and it's share holders .Would keep the shareholders informed about timely proactive developments ,unfortunately pigs might fly. Back to reality.
Unless we made fantastic profit on the €550k of stock we purchased then I still expect further funds will be required when it comes to manufacturing new stock. As for the stock that remains with DSM, It would make sense, to me anyway, that they hold onto it and pay us when they use any for the premix and market ready solutions side of things. In turn we pay them a small warehousing fee. Surly that would be easier than shipping it to us only to ship it back when they need it.
BWTFDIK. :)
I've been expecting an announcement of a fund raise since April, hopefully no news is good news and it isn't necessary.
Not long to wait to find out.
The best we can hope for in September is indication that we are forecasting profit this year and perhaps that that no additional funding is required.
And as we all know there can be no surprises in results ,, so unless we get some news between now and then don’t expect too much in these results ! Imho
Only a few weeks to wait.
Should know by now the results always come at the end of September.
8 months since the half years results. 5 months since the update on the transfer and finances.
Next week September 1st nine month's without any update
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He cannot find the pitch never mind being on the ball.
Come on Ian, this needs updating
hihttps://www.provexis.com/fruitflow/
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Ah!
So the By-Health RNS (or whatever its called in China).
I was referring to the Provexis ones that said "DSM Nutritional Products ("DSM"), has entered into a strategic collaboration agreement for Fruitflow® with BY-HEALTH Co., Ltd" which would make you assume the whole company.
But its all in the past now.
This is the link I was reading:
https://data-eastmoney-com.translate.goog/notices/detail/300146/AN201611180110071912.html?_x_tr_sch=http&_x_tr_sl=zh-CN&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=wapp
alf, you clearly couldn't be bothered to look back at the previous couple of posts. your "i guess we can't afford to go after these folks legally" came immediately after gixer's "royal dsm n.v.: in 2020, royal dsm n.v. launched a new insoluble dietary fiber product called fruitflow® and dr_h's "they must be getting kelloggs fruit n' fibre mixed up with fruitflow", all under the heading "snippet", so i wondered what the **** you were talking about. thanks for the clarification.
I stand corrected :)
Must admit I don't recall any of the RNS's specifically stating DSM China. Need to read more carefully in future :)
Whether they had much involvement or not, the good thing is that they are not involved going forward which will obviously be better for us in the long run.
Gix,
The agreement was with DSM China.
"The framework agreements disclosed by the company in the last three years are all progressing normally. BY-HEALTH Co., Ltd. (hereinafter referred to as the "Company" or "BY-HEALTH") disclosed the "Announcement on Signing an Innovation Strategic Cooperation Agreement with DSM (China) Co., Ltd. Address: No. 476 Libing Road, China (Shanghai) Pilot Free Trade Zone (4) Legal representative Person: Jiang Weiming'
That said, "DSM (China) Co., Ltd. is a wholly-owned subsidiary of DSM Group in China. It provides management services for more than 30 companies of DSM Group in China. DSM Group is based on science and technology, and is active in the fields of health, nutrition and materials on a global scale. "
We will never know, but I don't think we have any evidence that they were involved, or not involved. Other than I do recall they were mentioned on some China studies a few years back.
You are correct we don't know exactly what they but the collaboration was not specifically DSM China but DSM as a whole.
"The strategic collaboration agreement between DSM and BY-HEALTH will focus on the development of new products that contribute to cardiovascular health, to include the establishment of relevant evaluation and testing procedures to accord with Chinese technical and regulatory standards.
The development process will target the creation of new products for people who are at risk of cardiovascular disease, particularly to include those over 40 years of age."
All we know is no products came out of the collaboration and DSM was not named in any of the studies that we already know about.
IMO. By-Health did not get the help from DSM that they expected and that is why they are no longer involved in the collaboration with Fruitflow.
I don’t think we would know what they did or didn’t do, as DSM China are a management consulting firm. They would be working under the banner of BH.
Stuff is highly controlled over there. By Health may well have state involvement, most of their companies are not as independent as we would think of it. Therefore a foreign owned company may well have encountered obstacles. Can't say I know for sure but I have had a lot of experience of how things work over there.
Only the fact that DSM China didn't do any of the above ( well below)
PXS agreement :
Through this cooperation, the company can not only enhance the research and development and technical strength of new raw materials, new products, and new technologies, but also develop more new products in the fields of dietary supplements and functional foods, so as to reserve more competitive and innovative products for the company. Scarce products, which in turn stabilize the company's leading advantage in the industry.
BH & DSM China agreement 2016:
The company has reached an innovative strategic partnership with DSM. The two parties are committed to jointly developing scientific research and application of functional ingredients and functional dietary supplements in China, and jointly developing cardiovascular health based on "Fruitflow" New products, actively deploy new functional areas of health food, reserve more competitive and scarce products for BY-HEALTH, and help the company deploy the future personalized nutrition and health industry.
Do we have any evidence that DSM China are no longer involved?