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The research says "Aspirin does reduce the risk of stroke and heart attacks, but can also increase bleeding risk in the stomach and the brain, especially if you have uncontrolled high blood pressure."
And we all know or all should know Fruitflow has no side effects like Aspirin, and Fruitflow improves our Blood flow by preventing blood clotting and reduces the risk of Strokes and Heart attacks too.
And Fruitflow helps prevent the serious infection of the Corona Virus that kills us by causing blood clotting in our blood flow to the brain and heart and all around our body.
And the scientists say a third of the people who catch the Corona Virus experience no serious ill effects from the virus, highlighting, in my opinion, keeping our blood flow healthy by taking Fruitflow prevents the Corona Virus killing us off by causing severe blood clotting.
There’s lots in google scholar on benefits of low dose aspirin on cancer.
W$
That's the issue with world wide regs though, they can differ.
I may be wrong about this, but didn't DSM include some talk of it in their many articles about Fruitflow's benefits?
Free radicals is like a rock band name, but by keeping them moving on rather than sticking to areas of the body, the chance of them developing is reduced. Or something along those lines.
Alf, indeed
this teview by NHS says inconclusive and further studies needed. I hope this in an area BH are looking into. Would prefer not to see claims that aren’t fully substantiated though, regardless of regs.
https://www.nhs.uk/news/cancer/daily-low-dose-aspirin-may-help-combat-cancer/
W$
I recall reading that the way aspirin helps prevent cancers forming is by keeping blood flowing more freely, not allowing cancer forming cells to dwell in organs. Clearly, the same can be claimed for Fruitflow, which acts in more pathways than aspirin.
Perhaps Chinese laws on health claims is different in terms of what health claims are permitted
Blood clotting is how the Corona Virus kills us if our blood flow is not kept healthy.
And now More and more Fruitflow products on Amazon and Ebay;-
http://www.now-sale.co.uk/search.php?q=%2B+fruitflow&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI26-Gv8a86gIVwuFRCh3XCgBAEAAYBCAAEgKatPD_BwE
From the Chinese report:-
"Tomato concentrate not only has anti-cancer and anti-cancer effects, but also has important significance for preventing various adult diseases such as cardiovascular diseases and arteriosclerosis , strengthening the human immune system, and delaying aging ."
You can clearly see the efsa logo but no idea what the others are for
https://postimg.cc/ctcnrRbR
It was "8. Special medical food supply platform." that caught my eye.
Does this mean its passed for FSMP?
https://food.chemlinked.com/foodpedia/food-special-medical-purposefsmp-regulation
Wheelie
Thx for taking time to post.
I don’t recall seeing the ‘anti cancer effect’ claim anywhere before. I wonder what work the claim is based on (I recall summit on aspirin being a potential cancer suppressor, but not our FF)
W$
A lot of sales channels:-
https://translate.google.co.uk/translate?hl=en&sl=zh-CN&u=http://www.yaofu.cn/zs/show-354067.ht
Sales channels: 1. Public hospitals. 2. Private hospital. 3. Chain pharmacy. 4. Health club. 5. "Direct selling agencies. 6. Health Management Center. 7. Public health service system. 8. Special medical food supply platform."
Approval number: SC10641019400539
"Main ingredients: fructooligosaccharide, water-soluble tomato concentrate,"
snow lotus culture, honeysuckle, jujube kernel, cherry, ginseng (planted under five years), lycopene, ?-aminobutyric acid, taurine, stevioside."
Looks like (water-soluble tomato concentrate,) our Fruitflow, is now being sold in China.
https://translate.google.co.uk/translate?hl=en&sl=zh-CN&u=http://www.femgj.com/jkpd/ysxl/show-49.html&prev=search&pto=au
" Tomato concentrate , which not only has anti-cancer effect of tumor suppressor, but also for the prevention of cardiovascular disease, arteriosclerosis and other adult diseases, enhance the body's immune system and anti-aging are all important."
Sales channels: 1. Public hospitals. 2. Private hospital. 3. Chain pharmacy. 4. Health club. 5. "Direct selling agencies. 6. Health Management Center. 7. Public health service system. 8. Special medical food supply platform."
Approval number: SC10641019400539
"Main ingredients: fructooligosaccharide, water-soluble tomato concentrate, snow lotus culture, honeysuckle, jujube kernel, cherry, ginseng (planted under five years), lycopene, ?-aminobutyric acid, taurine, stevioside."
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.....I suggested it to her, but it ends up being too expensive for her. She now seems to want to just combine FF+ with a drink. My stepdad takes Fruitflow+ every day (has done for a few years), which has reduced his blood pressure.
Gixer never gives up. Without him we would know absolutely nothing at all. Is Ian Ford still in charge somewhere?
Great work Gixer
Will try again with the links. If it doesn't work just copy and past ;-)
https://www.femgj.com/cpzx/gnbj/show-103.html
https://www.femgj.com/jkpd/ysxl/show-49.html
https://www.yaofu.cn/zs/show-354067.htm
https://www.pfbjp.com/vip/faerma/
Falma Core
Ingredients include water-soluble tomato concentrate.
http://www.femgj.com/cpzx/gnbj/show-103.html
http://www.femgj.com/jkpd/ysxl/show-49.html
http://www.yaofu.cn/zs/show-354067.htm
https://www.pfbjp.com/vip/faerma/
Just thought the effervescent tablets would be good if she cant take tablets.
https://flyfit.com/products/flyfit-original-cranberry?_pos=4&_sid=1d49c7190&_ss=r
Hi Gixer - Thank u! I will check with mum!
https://flyfit.com/
Might be one for your mum Sock if it becomes available in the UK.
Hello, I realise this isn't of any real relevance, but it's not as if there is much activity on the forum at the moment, so thought I would post something.
I was Googling the other day trying to find some Fruitflow for my mum, and I came across an old DSM presentation back in November 2014.
https://www.provexis.org/?news=food-matters-live-london-fruitflow-efsa-approved-natural-food-ingredient
I think it's at the bottom of page 19, under the title 'Fruitflow - a natural blood thinner', there's an example of a product called 'Freeflow....helps reduce the risk of blood clots'. Also, another one called 'Smoothflow - a natural blood thinner'.
At the time, I remember getting so excited about this, imagining the potential of Fruitflow. There is serious potential with Fruitflow.
Okay, I don't think we are going to be able to put a claim like 'reduces risk of blood clots', but any of us who have done a bit of research, know that it does. Fruitflow is an incredible product, which is partly why the long wait is so frustrating. I think we'll get there though.
Seeing that image of 'Freeflow' also brought back memories of being really unwell. It was at that exact time when I became really ill with a stomach virus and other serious symptoms, which ended up with a stay in hospital, and then a diagnosis of MS in Dec 2015 (yeah, it took a year to get diagnosed!). I remember waiting 5 hours in the waiting room. Turned out that it was a bad flu / virus season in 2014. Pales into insignificance compared to what's happening now, however!
Sock
Thanks Gixer :) Yep, mum wouldn't get on with the sports nutrition. It's a shame Sirco isn't about anymore. Thanks for the links!
How big are simplysupllemts blood pressure formula tablets? They're twice a day, so you'd hope they're a fair bit smaller than ff+o3
Unfortunately Sirco is not sold anymore as far as I am aware.
Her options are pretty limited if she cant swallow tablets easily unless she is willing to try a sports nutrition product but some of the other ingredients in them would probably rule them out.
PERFORMANCE PUMP
https://www.bodybuildingwarehouse.co.uk/performance-pump-30-servings
PERFORMANCE PRIME CAFFEINE FREE
https://www.bodybuildingwarehouse.co.uk/performance-prime-caffeine-free?nosto=nosto-column-left
This might have worked but the vegetable soup (with FF) is no longer available.
https://www.directnutrition.co.uk/products/weight-control-direct-nutrition-meal-replacement-protein-soup?variant=13858483847
I don't blame her for not wanting to drink a dissolved FF+, the smell would put me off before I even tasted it. :-P
Hi Guys, looking for some help please. My mum has a phobia swallowing large tablets / capsules, and so this rules out FF+O3. Is Sirco still sold these days? That is her first option. Second option are small tablets. I've suggested putting FF+ in a hot drink to allow contents to dissolve, but she just won't go there. I'd have no problem doing that but she does. She wants Sirco.