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...I managed to use Google translator on the website u kindly provided. I also put in the key words 'blood pressure' and 150 items appeared. A lot of them appear to be registrations that were approved 15 to 20 years ago. Perhaps these are old claims that don't have Blue Hats?
Thank u. davidxie77, Wow...150. That's a lot more than I had in mind. I'm out of touch on the EFSA approved health claims for reducing blood pressure, which I think is only fish oils and potassium.
So, I take it there are lots of different plant extracts and minerals over in China that can make the blood pressure claim?
Maybe that's not a bad thing as it helps to build awareness.
I was thinking that Fruitflow might be amongst only a handful of other blood pressure lowering supplements in China.
Sock
Hi Sock, below is the link of the government portal you can search for products with blue hat approval, however, i am afraid that it is only in Chinese and it is not very informative tbh, I did a search by using the keyword "blood pressure", there are around 150 results and I could not see any by-health product
http://tsspxx.gsxt.gov.cn//gcbjp/bjpindexquery.xhtml?cpmc=&pzwh=&sqrzwmc=&bjgn=%25E8%25A1%2580%25E5%258E%258B&zyyl=&scqyywmc=&scgdq=&cpywmc=&scqyzwmc=&bs=
Hi davidxie77, really good to hear from u! Thank u for the website links. I wondered if u knew of a Chinese website that list all approved health claims so far?
With EFSA, there was a website that listed all approved health claims, which was very useful to see which claims had been approved and the company that had received the approval?
It would be nice to know if there were any other blood pressure lowering products out there in China that have had Blue Hats.
Sock
I don't think they will get total exclusivity in China, even they do, they will have to pay good money for it, don't forget DSM is still in the mix, I am sure they will maximize their return in Fruitflow as much as possible
hi Sock, apologies for the late reply
You need to go to their Tmall or Jd store to see the full range of products, in fact, I am not aware of their operation in the UK, can't see any oversea income in their annual report
https://mall.jd.com/index-1000001285.html
https://tangchenbeijian.tmall.com/
You don't. You sit. In an office, typing what you're instructed to say. There are too many of us long termers who have seen too many like you over the years, trying to create bad sentiment.
There's no "we" about it, you're one of them. but it has no effect because there is nobody to spook any more. The newsflow has been inevitably overshadowed by other matters this year, but the aim and objective of global development continues.
This is frustrating ,we don't know we're we stand
Good evening ,just to clarify are you saying that pis want these shares at a lower price, so they could get them cheap from small share holders like us,because ghey know something is going on behind the scenes. I believe you are on the right path,thank you
Nazir1234 I am not saying anything , i do not give investment advice as I have a terrible record of getting things right. I am just saying what the chart looks like and what could happen . There are 2 bill shares the insiders will know if the SP is going to rise and they will be wanting to get shares off PIs should that be the case. As ever with PXS it is all icing and no cake.
The latest FB post very clear and concise. It’s a shame still unavailable at amazon & HB.
With the reopening of gyms, many of us will now be increasing our physical and sporting activity as we prioritise our fitness and health more now than ever.
Despite all the benefits, sport and exercise release thrombin and adrenaline into the blood stream, activating blood platelets and causing inflammatory stress. This contributes to muscle soreness which slows down recovery.
Fruitflow reduces the inflammatory stress caused by vigorous exercise by more than half, thus providing improved recovery between training sessions, enabling more effective training. The sooner you recover, the sooner you can go out training again, and the more you train, the fitter and better you get.
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Hiya gixer - Ah, I see. Thanks for putting me straight :)
Give it a rest zeus. If you get your .35 then fair play, hows about you wait till then to gloat instead of trying to bash, thats scummy. But even then why would you then bother to rebuy anyways? You would re buy because you know there is huge potential here. We are all frustrated by how long this project has taken but most realise that the product is good and has value. The rest is total speculation. Your .35 prediction could quite easily easily turn out to be a 5p aquisition. China could be key, blue hat and product may put us on a different platform. Each to their own. Im seeing this one out. We will either win or lose. My personal opinion is that pxs win in the end.
Sock, This
http://www.femgj.com/cpzx/gnbj/show-103.html
and others would suggest the don't have total exclusivity in China
Hi sphinx100 - Okay. I see ehaf h mean.
Hi davidxie77 - Just out of interest, on the By health website (UK site), I counted 69 products. So, in terms of there being 200 products, are only 69 available online, and the rest u have to buy in shops? Or, is it that only 69 are available on the UK site?
They're not , but it just emphasises the process and cost .
...sorry, am I missing something, when and where was PHDS referred to by Provexis?
PHDS in Dietary Supplement Registration
PHDS enjoys a high reputation and widespread acclaim for successful registration experience in China for over 25 years for health food, dietary supplement, food ingredients and GRAS products. PHDS provides high quality, high efficiency and reliable service of regulatory consulting and registration for clients from over 54 countries. As an expert in regulatory affairs in China, PHDS possesses enormous successful registration experience for health food.
The regulatory management of China's dietary supplement industry has always been a controversial issue especially over the pasted years. CFDA requires companies to apply for a registration before marketing. The registration is referred to as a "blue hat" registration because the logo resembles a blue hat. Most registration could cost upwards of $100,000 or more per product depending on what claim is being made and what the ingredients are, then various laboratory tests and animal tests would be taken. Since the issue of Health Food Registration and Filing Management Procedure, the products that meet the requirements of specific ingredients and usage can go throug a filing procedure, which is called a "orange hat". PHDS as a leading professional expert in such regulatory affairs has a very high efficient and high successful rate for the registration with CFDA.
PHDS gets your products into China faster.
Perhaps By-health have exclusively in China. You'd think that if By-health are going to pay for trials etc, and marketing, that would be in the arrangement. But, there are other countries / continents. I realise there's no evidence to back up this, however.
Wow...u said it, davidxie77! Great to hear from u!
one more thing to add, Byhealth is not the only client we have. If Fruitflow is promoted heavily by such a giant, more companies will jump on the Fruitflow wagon.
blue hat normally takes 3 years to be granted, each submission cost 60k to 100k (over 500k on some cases) By health currently have around 200 sku and 140 are blue hatted, they are definitely the know how company in terms of getting the blue hat status. My guess is that 2 years will be sufficient for them to put a blue hat on Fruitflow products, hence Q1 next year we should see some significant progresses.
The turnover of By health last year was 5.2B RMB (£580 MILLION) with gross margin of 67%, 200 SKU will give each products £2.9M of annual sales, if Byhealth launch 8 products containing Fruitflow, they are paying 8*2.9*0.33=£7.66 m to DSM, if the profit share between DSM and PXS is 70/30, revenue for PXS will be £2.3 m(Multiple of current sales of 450k), PXS gross profit margin was 90% (according to audited account ended 30 Sep 2019), £2.3m *0.9- 800k(R&D, Admin and distribution cost)= £1.3M in profit, work on the PE of 30, our market cap should be £39M while the current Market cap is £14M. So when people saying we are heading towards 0.35p, please advise your thoughts behind that.
I hold a few millions of shares in PXS and am willing to wait for another 10 years as i think Fruitflow will benefit millions of people, in fact i have more faith in PXS than the 3 companies i am running at the moment :)
T
June rise was due to a major shareholder increasing his stake.
No attempt to spin it negatively is credible.
When someone takes a percentage out of the market, and doesn't sell them, the sp reacts.
Seen you in too many guises over the years. Learn the lesson of history, vanish and re-invent yourself again in the future.
You know you will.
Sorry ever hopeful ,just to be clear ,you are saying if the Chinese don't launch a blue cap product then the share price will drop below and if they launch a blue cap product will wull have and increase in the sp( i hope it is successful)
Apologies if already posted. I just don't remember it being completely available when (I think) gixer posted it previously.
Aspirin & FF trial might be because of Aspirin resistance. Taking FF with it should help.
http://www.wjtcm.net/article.asp?issn=2311-8571;year=2019;volume=5;issue=4;spage=260;epage=268;aulast=Zhang