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DP
MM's wanted some stock........
btw
Something I hadn't appreciated is flyfit selling FF in four benefit categories, with a different formulation for each
Travel, work, immunity, sport
https://flyfit.com/collections
W$
and there's more
"Can a water-soluble tomato concentrate (new complexin) inhibit platelet aggregation? What is the significance for human health?"
https://tech-ifeng-com.translate.goog/c/8G3cb03gU7C?_x_tr_sl=zh-CN&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=wapp
"Platelet aggregation? High platelet count? Will water soluble tomato concentrate (neocomplex) work?"
https://tech-ifeng-com.translate.goog/c/8G3bNf994vV?_x_tr_sl=zh-CN&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=wapp
"How can blood clots be prevented? Let Water Soluble Tomato Concentrate Help You"
https://tech-ifeng-com.translate.goog/c/8G4BVrMKX6h?_x_tr_sl=zh-CN&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=wapp
Other than the date its getting more difficult to tell if some of these articles are new because they use the same graphics / pics and similar in content but as you can see from these recent ones there are differences.
How does Antiplatelet Aggregation Neoplexin (Water-Soluble Tomato Concentrate) Work?
https://tech-ifeng-com.translate.goog/c/8FVOR7Y7YTn?_x_tr_sl=zh-CN&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=sc
How does Antiplatelet Aggregation Neoplexin (Water-Soluble Tomato Concentrate) Work on Cardiovascular?
https://tech-ifeng-com.translate.goog/c/8FWnQtQZqIt?_x_tr_sl=zh-CN&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=wapp#:~:text=%E5%AE%9E%E9%AA%8C%E7%BB%93%E6%9E%9C%E6%98%BE%E7%A4%BA%EF%BC%8C%E6%B0%B4%E6%BA%B6%E6%80%A7
Guys,
So what happend today? From big drop to good rise. Please let us know when going out for a curry. I will be happy to join.
We are in Stonehaven.. also been taking since Sirco days, life changing stuff, shame the patents took so long!!!
W$.
Nazma is a good shout , I'm in Ellon but anywhere in or out of town is good for me, I'm still as confident today as I was when I first bought in, possibly because it came out of the Rowett Institute all those years ago the scientific tie in between By Health and Aberdeen University, but mostly because its a fantastic product which both myself and my wife have taken everyday since it came out in the form of Sirco.
Just give me a shout anytime for a beer.
GLA.
Hi Dons, yes I am, when this comes love to share a Nazma curry with you !!
just noticed I was using the price for lypocene as quoted in the article (8000RM/KG) rather than for FF (6000RM/KG)
Makes no difference to the potential, it is massive if people are told about FF and enough can be supplied to met potential demand.
In terms of where we are on the journey, it is possible to calculate how much annual income DSM got from the PSA in 2021. The lower the cut of profit we get the higher the income DSM got (note, income, not profit). id est. if we get 1p a shot the total income is 10.8 times what we get (10.8p a shot), if we get 0.5p a shot total income is 21.6 times what we get (6000 RMB/KG, 150mg/shot 0.12 £/RMB)
From the cost per shot we can calculate how many users. 1p per shot has three times the users than for 3p a shot etc....
So for 2021 for scenario of 0.5p a shot to us, total income to DSM was £7.7MM for 196000 users. For scenario of 3p a shot to us to us DSM got £1.3MM and were 33000 users
https://i.postimg.cc/8PSdSmcv/journey.jpg
Please do your own calculations as mistakes do happen .......
W$
*that’s
Someone buying in even with this unattractive spread. Let’s hope there is a bit of a leak and that why people buying in.
Thanks WS.
Are you in Aberdeen by any chance ?
Don
alf
100% agree.
W$
No Naz, it hasn't.
Don't you have any opinions on the news gixer has posted, and on the financial projections posted by Wellsite ?
The price is going down ,and the buying and selling massive spread, why?
The imponderable would be when a potential buyer is in a mood to move. Given that the business climate could get messy in the near to medium term due to inflationary pressures/recession etc, the customary air of uncertainty has to be factored in IMHO
Don
I guess googling P/E ratios for various market sectors (drug/food) and factoring where we potentially are on the FF journey potential could give an indication. Fact is, we have never seen a business plan so have no idea at what point on the growth curve IF et al intend to exit .......
W$
gixer and W$,
Great work guys. Without two of you this board will be very inactive. W$ your graph looks mind blowing. Hope it will tansalte in to SP.
Wellsite,thanks for the graphs, very interesting, how do you think any of those would translate into a share price?
GLA
"Scientists have also found a natural substance against cardiovascular and cerebrovascular diseases - water-soluble tomato concentrate in the common vegetable "tomato". Reduce the occurrence of diseases such as atherosclerosis."
The science is moving along nicely. Previously we have been talking about anti-thrombotic properties of FF and blood pressure reduction, but now we are talking about also reducing atherosclerosis, the build up of fatty deposits on the arterial wall.
So that evidence building up that FF is beneficial to blood cholesterol, blood flow and blood pressure, the holy trinity of heart health.
Hopefully it is all leading to where we hope it will, that FF is recommended globally as a primary prevention against cardiovascular disease.
I've put another scary chart together. This time put in cashflow (14.4p a shot) & % profit vs number of users.
Once BH get things moving and we start getting some decent cash in things should snowball for FF as profits are reinvested etc.....
Question is, when shall someone take us out and for what price ?
https://i.postimg.cc/sgZF6k0z/income.jpg
W$$
Keep up the good work guys. Something definitely building
and another.
"10 years of British scientific research confirms that water-soluble tomato concentrate is a blood vessel scavenger
2022-05-15"
https://www-163-com.translate.goog/dy/article/H7EHG76D0512GAH5.html?f=post1603_tab_news&_x_tr_sl=zh-CN&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=wapp
Also the renegotiation with Dsm should see a bigger percentage coming to pxs ,
I am assuming the whole pricing for FF changes in January next year with the ramp up in production.
Moon used to say that the margin on FF was good , but becomes excellent/high when the volumes go up.
for those who like being scared
for the assumption of 1p to us from DSM & 10p from FF+ . Although we have seen an improvement in terms to us over the period, the DSM so far trend is pretty good.
https://i.postimg.cc/bwT3XRgZ/ffusers.jpg
And this one shows why we are all here. Profit vs # of users, for 1p & 3p / shot profit
https://i.postimg.cc/hPhSQCzB/profit.jpg
W$
wellsite,
"yep, the spreadsheet starts to get pretty scary when playing the numbers"
For sure. If this Chinese article from last year has the correct selling price for Fruitflow.
"FruitFlow tomato juice powder (6000RMB/kg), high phytoene content tomato powder (8000RMB/kg),"
Although with Provexis supplying then I would assume the price to By-Health would be a bit cheaper.
https://mbd.baidu.com/newspage/data/landingsuper?third=baijiahao&baijiahao_id=1693898004131476920&c_source=kunlun&p_tk=55150VBGZyb%2BOmOIawCsmS01Hr8B1gThUr2wgwS9J3Q2%2F3IlxtHFD8sya35nt4JfJDUz%2FtDJZ5%2BAvClIOVKT2zngGIY%2BEFhG%2Fp4T48GR3hGVhNgIeB2KWi6mBIoYSTe6ArnE&p_timestamp=1652600425&p_sign=ec105aaf5715e547667bd38f68015d27&p_signature=4bc8a83ad5a43f2e6bd78c5c21ef8e9c&__pc2ps_ab=55150VBGZyb%2BOmOIawCsmS01Hr8B1gThUr2wgwS9J3Q2%2F3IlxtHFD8sya35nt4JfJDUz%2FtDJZ5%2BAvClIOVKT2zngGIY%2BEFhG%2Fp4T48GR3hGVhNgIeB2KWi6mBIoYSTe6ArnE|1652600425|4bc8a83ad5a43f2e6bd78c5c21ef8e9c|ec105aaf5715e547667bd38f68015d27
Nice find Dr_H