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https://www.thenewatlantis.com/publications/unsustainable-alarmism?mc_cid=1d2f7ff2d1&mc_eid=177c4f2d97
Some light reading on a slow news day.
Blue, comparing a civil airliner like the A320 with a Certified 2.5g limit to a eurofighter typhoon with 9g is chalk and cheese.
Military aircraft have to operate on poor or unprepared landing strips as well as carriers, many modern military aircraft have fly by wire controls but the earliest soviet/Russian was the SU27. Not sure about the frog foot. Many systems have LRUs so depending on what’s damaged it’s an easy swap, similar for external panels where speed tape isn’t enough.
There will certainly be an element of parts robbing from airframes with more substantial damage but that’s the nature of wartime make do and mend.
Oh and I don’t design aircraft, but I do work in the industry.
https://www.indianarrative.com/world-news/the-rise-of-king-coal-from-the-pits-as-energy-crisis-hits-europe-189087.html?mc_cid=1d2f7ff2d1&mc_eid=177c4f2d97
For those who still think Putin has a trump card with energy and therefore inevitably Europe will somehow force Zelenski to hand over Ukraine to Russia so sanctions suddenly end and the sp goes to a million quid!
It won't be happening. Zero carbon is being U turned, Putin has actually done the west a big favour seeing the zero covid pushed to one side to deal his energy problem. I like the swipe at the west from this Indian article. See if you can spot it.
chippy, aircraft construction is on my turf. Next time you can, check out the size of the dampers on any military aircraft landing gear. They are often huge compared to the aircraft size. They have to be to protect the airframe and wings during landing from shock. The strength of the aircraft is built in to the envelope, so as the envelope widens, often the speed drops maintaining the load under threshold, especially when carrying weapons and fuel tanks externally. The flight avionics stop pilots going outside the envelope based on loadout to stop the wings being ripped off or the engine twisting itself out the frame with the torque.
As for easy to repair, I think you are confusing WWII planes which had large areas of frame with nothing important to hit. A modern plane has variable geometry panels all over it that are moved by the flight computer for optimal aerodynamics and control the load. And also the metals and composites have to be very light with reduced radar profile. Carbon fibre is very strong in one weave direction, but you can twist it by hand in the other direction. And most Russian aircraft are poorly looked after so have their flight envelopes even more limited.
Blue, military aircraft aren’t weak and flimsy and the flight envelope is huge compared to civil.
There are also made for being shot at and repaired quickly.
As for the state of those hit, the weapon used seems to have caused significant damage over a wider area so I’d expect total destruction of a range of equipment and supplies. Also with the use of HARM missiles to hit S300/400 Russias situation may deteriorate significantly in the coming weeks if Ukraine get further penetration with the airforce.
It was obvious from the blast in the video yesterday, it was a big one. I would estimate all aircraft will have at the very least shrapnel damage and none therefore serviceable, like all the cars. It doesn't take much to stop military aircraft flying, they are surprisingly very weak and flimsy compared to civilian certified aircraft. They fall apart outside their flight envelope.
So, same question as normal, the Russian generals knew what was coming but decided not to act. There will be more of these big hits, some by sabotage on the ground and within Russia, some by rockets according to use rules, the Crimea bridge will be next now the practice is over. When will the generals throw the towel in (assuming they find any alive to call it off lol)?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SWIk0CVLyXo
Just remember people. No damage caused lol..... Just a massive metal i beam thrown horizontally though the side windows of a car like a javelin, everything black and totally destroyed aircraft.
Chique, global warming is threatening the permafrost areas and nature in Siberia so I don’t think anyone sees that as a positive, especially as the permafrost has locked in huge amounts of greenhouse gas and melting makes the land hugely unstable.
As for media in Russia, they say no damage done on the airbase yesterday in Crimea and it was an accident. The burnt out SU24 and the craters would indicate something different.
They cant criticise Russia because they will be raped or sent to gulag. Yes she told me that women are raped there as punishment by the state. They live in perpetual fear. Go watch the Youtube videos from the Russians who go around asking Russians questions. They are scared to even have an opinion.
Do not compare America to Russia. One is a superpower democracy, the richest and most powerful nation on earth with a constitutional rights system. The other is a tin pot dictatorship run by a midget madman where you have no rights and can be sent to prison for 10 years for calling a war a war.
You might also recall Obama saying ' We tortured some folks'
This will be just the tip of the iceberg and you seem to ignore this and think it's Russia , and where does all this news come from . think man!!!
It is you who should get real.
The majority of Russians I have met , and that is many, are proud of their country and I do not recall one of them being overly critical like you suggest.
I believe Putin was voted in just like the brilliant choice of BIDEN OR TRUMP , while we have had May , Johnson and now likely Truss. Don't make me laugh.
I dont buy that. She has worked for a western company for years. They give her a job here and found her somewhere to live to escape the hell that is Putins Russia. Why else have millions left Russia in last 6 months...
Chique you are clearly deluded if you think Russia has anything good going for it under that crazy dictator. ITS A DICTATORSHIP for heavens sake. RUN BY A KGB MURDERER. Hes has children killed by his order. Hacked to death with cleavers just to punish their parents. Hes poisoned people in the street.
Who are you kidding Chique? Get real.
The woman may have many reasons for portraying her country this way , sympathy for one , guilt another.
I can pretty much guarantee I know many multiples of Russians and Ukrainians , most of whom have extended families in their countries, Moscow included.
Funny that i recently met a Women from Moscow which now lives in the UK, She thinks many Russians are brainwashed now, she cant work it out. She thinks their media are terrible liars and their military is shameful the way they have conducted the war and her country is basically going back 30 years in months. All her friends are now unemployed and cant get jobs and imported equipment is now so scarce for parts that entire factories are closing as they cannot operate any longer. We the west have not got the situation wrong in the slightest in Russia, for once our media is pretty spot on with the real situation in Russia. More proof that Russia is exactly what it thinks it is.
I am not an expert on climate change but would guess that global warming may actually benefit Russia hence the lack of coverage.
Given the BBC and various main US outlets, nobody would ever claim there is anything truthful. And as for the output of the Soviet EU!!!!! Hell, look at the total suppression of open debate on climate change and zero carbon policy. I suspect the Kremlin looks on in envy at how such a total lockdown on information and routine broadcasts of outright lies can be accomplished without draconian laws. The key difference in the west is the very wide scope of sources we have access too compared to a spoon fed narrow band of information to Russians in Russia. But, I saw the fact that 1.2mill Russians were using VPN prewar, now it is over 24mill and rising. The problem with that though is a lot of Russians now what is being done in their name, but do not object or move on their leaders. Makes the population complicit and adds a further reason for POLY to get out of Russia.
Yes BaffledbyZIRP
It makes me laugh when people talk about the poor , misinformed Russians as if their own western media is telling the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth.
> Good and bad reside on both sides of the debate equally.
In the current case the the bad clearly resides with russia, the agressor state. Everything else is secondary. Given what russia has done, anything Ukraine does in response is fine.
I have read the exchange of opinions with interest and felt the urge to respond. I find the binary presentation that we are virtuous and they evil, unbalanced and naive. Matt Taibbi characterises the MSM narrative of the Russia-Ukraine war as 'Adolf Hitler vs baby seals'. Certainty is the bedfellow of fools. We should rightly consider the issue more fully and reflect on our own limitations.
The West has many venerable institutions that have been tarnished and abused over the course of the last 40 years by neoliberal economic policies and unscrupulous politicians serving the interests of the Titans of Technology, Big Pharma, the MIC, Finance, and Energy. How can we lecture lesser nations on the benefits of democracy and the rule of law when George W Bush was elected with less of the popular vote than Gore in a state where his brother was Governor and ordered a recount while his father was the former President and head of the Secret Service? When we entered a war in which perhaps 1,000,000 people were killed, on a trumped up pretext plagiarised from a student's dissertation? When we left Afghanistan in such unseemly haste and abandoned our former allies to their fates? When Greece, the Cradle of Democracy, was subjected to such appalling abuse by the Troika? When in our own country leaders have been selected internally or ruled by coalition rather than by the electoral mandate viz Brown, Cameron, May, Johnson and next Truss? When the public purse picked up the tab for reckless lending by shyster bankers who pocketed their immoral bonuses and moved on to the next mug? When our country had net migration of over 1,000,000 last year despite Cameron's efforts to reduce it to 'tens of thousands'. When half the country is dependent on state subsidy in one form or another? When the bus drivers, train workers, post men, firemen, teachers, lawyers, doctors, nurses, telephone engineers et al are on or considering strike action? When CPI is approaching 10% and RPI is over 13%? When the roads are riddled with pot holes and hard work and enterprise are discourages by bureaucracy and taxation? When our politicians are bought and paid for? Is ours a system that encourages imitation?
The Developing World must look at us with longing. Let's be objective about this; authoritarian states such as Russia and China certainly have problems, as do we. It is easy to have scruples when you are warm and full, however come winter when people are cold and hungry more pressing considerations may shape public priorities. Mark Twain said that, 'if you don't read the newspaper that makes you uninformed, but if you do read the newspaper that makes you misinformed'. There are great machinations behind the current phase in geopolitics, perhaps even the end of US hegemony. We must always question Cui Bono? Good and bad reside on both sides of the debate equally.
"Chique.
You miss the most important point. "
I do not miss the point at all, the media are doing the work in keeping voters opinions in a very narrow band. To run in USA for office you have to have a great deal of dollar backing.
In USA there is only 30% chance of getting laws supported by the bottom 90% people passed, this is a great deal higher for the top 10% supported laws getting passed. So money is what counts and the media are behind the money.
To get people like you thinking it's a true democracy shows they have achieved their goal without 'too many ' assassinations required, so mostly media bringing politicians down.
Freedom of press is compromised at the best of times.
Like when the Monarchy squeezing parliament.
Buck Bang on let's keep the tread where it belongs politically or otherwise
Buck.
Good point, apologies.
Despite repeated attempts to undermine it and discredit it, the West still has rule of law, freedom of press, separation of powers, elections, human rights, participation and legitimacy. Russia et al do not.
Let's stop banging on, ignor ethe trolls and discuss Poly instead.
Chique.
You miss the most important point. Whatever you want to propose, I would say that even with all their faults, elections in the west are more democratic. No opposition leaders are being killed, none are being locked up or their parties made illegal. Yes county boundries are gerimandered, election finances sometimes unequal, but that is orders of magnitude different. This has influence to democracy and decisions.