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Lord rns reports are written in a legal format and many are so badly written they raise more questions than they answer. There are many publications that require a subscription and all of them feature communications with boards of plcs. They provide a service for people like me that are happy to pay for the service because they save me many hours i do not have because i have a busy lifestyle and badly organised. Additionally, i all of the writers and analysts over me understand any day. So why get hung up on such services if they help with the research and understand, etc? As long as there no rules being broken it should not be a problem. This vendetta you have against elrico is silly. I think i have said this before, i also had a problem with him a few years ago. It was a silly misunderstanding. He reached out to me and we had a talk over the phone. He is a really nice guy with a crap sense of humour. I found him to be very helpful and willing to spend time helping others when he can. He didn't do this because i was paying him because he had a free service back then.
Why do you ask him for a chat and hammer out your concerns?
I asked chatgpt for the difference between Sweetbiotix and other sweeteners. I thought it provided a nice overview for new or potential investors.
SweetBiotix, developed by OptiBiotix, differs from traditional artificial sweeteners in several key ways, mainly in its approach to health benefits and its mechanism of action:
1. **Source and Composition**: SweetBiotix are designed based on fibers that are non-digestible. This means they can potentially act as prebiotics, fostering the growth of beneficial bacteria in the gut. In contrast, most artificial sweeteners like aspartame, sucralose, and saccharin are synthetic compounds that do not provide any prebiotic benefits.
2. **Caloric Content**: SweetBiotix are intended to be low or zero-calorie, similar to other artificial sweeteners. However, their caloric contribution is derived from their fiber content, which the body does not digest, rather than being inherently calorie-free.
3. **Impact on Gut Health**: Unlike traditional artificial sweeteners, which can sometimes negatively affect gut health and microbiota, SweetBiotix aims to positively influence gut health due to their prebiotic nature. This aligns with the growing consumer interest in functional foods that support overall health and well-being.
4. **Taste and Aftertaste**: One common criticism of artificial sweeteners is their aftertaste, often described as bitter or metallic. SweetBiotix aims to closely mimic the taste profile of sugar without such undesirable aftertastes, making them potentially more palatable to consumers.
5. **Health Implications**: While some artificial sweeteners have been subject to health concerns and debates over their safety and potential metabolic effects, SweetBiotix aims to offer health benefits, particularly related to gut health and the modulation of the microbiome, without the negative effects associated with sugar or some artificial sweeteners.
It's important to note that the effectiveness and acceptance of SweetBiotix will depend on ongoing research, consumer trials, regulatory approvals, and market adoption. As with any food ingredient, individual responses can vary, and what works well for one person may not for another.
I was referring to elrico the lemon, not you.
Couldn't agree more lord but in this case perhaps you would care to explain what market sensitive news you think has been released via some old boys network as opposed to someone (me) doing their own research and then clarifying what they believe has been released via RNS?
AS, thanks for follow up info. I hope "rapid" is truly that. And, as you said, the market ought to be getting excited. So SOH/US partner need to get the word out. As soon as they are able, vis getting through regs.
Easiest solution is to totally disregard anything any so-called special influencer / chosen private investor utters.
Sadly, Aim companies granting certain shareholders comms privileges seems fairly widespread (unless they're all making it up of course, which is a distinct possibility).
It's frankly appalling this is ever allowed to happen . And if proven, it reflects very badly on the Board of said Aim companies. There should be no special concessions for any shareholder, regardless of how big their stake might be.
RNS's are there for a reason - to make market-sensitive information simultaneously available to everyone. Nods & winks to the privileged few amount to facilitating insider trading & should be punished accordingly - preferably with imprisonment. That way, other Directors contemplating a similar old boys network might just think twice.
Loadloads
As far as I can see other than when there was a short fall out between El Great one and SOH it means promoting it to high heaven.
nick You are correct he absolutely slaughtered TW for recommending top slicing and blamed him for the subsequent fall.
Of course we dont get much discussion from his sycophants over that "minor bump in the road"
What El Greato doesn't seem to answer is exactly what his own investment position is..He obviously held a significant number which he made very clear would not be sold under £5!!![not a misprint}..then he intimated he had lost faith and would be selling after SOH let him down on something I can't remember and now he seems to be heavily "featuring"{sic] them again.
So is he now holding plenty, did he ever sell or no?.Surely we should be told.
My own position is I previously held 30K worth which quickly headed south, then sold the lot at a loss and now have stuck in a 5K gamble to desperately get some back.
There that wasn't so difficult to say was it?
You need to read the sep 2020 rns detailing the agreement bk "The agreement grants the US Company an exclusive worldwide license in return for it bearing the costs relating to product manufacturing, marketing, and all future costs relating to the commercialisation of a number of SweetBiotix® products."
What's stopping OptiBiotix online store selling the sweetbiotix as a sugar replacement or via Amazon etc?
No doubt Dawn interpretive text!
I dare say he would martini depending on the number of emails sent at anyone time, just made sense to liaise through lemmings as I am a subscriber and then share the response with the many who know doubt have similar questions.
Loads, as I stated, the question was mine and the response came via lemmings who are a honest broker and have no motive to adulterate t h e response from SOH. I have reproduced the words regarding rapid route to market, only the smiley then all good was a lemmings add on to me
AS, thanks for sharing. You may be aware that SOH will respond direct to emails, if you wish to make direct contact.
spohara@optibiotix.com
Aquae - how exactly were SOH's replies communicated to you?
Was it via video where you could actually see him respond?
Or was it elrico's reporting, in which case we've no way of verifying.
I wanted to clarify whether structural as well as taste had passed independent scrutiny so posed the following question to SOH through the good offices of the much maligned Lemmings;
Q"I note the main progress update for Sweetbiotix since the 19th July 2023 Reach RNS appears to be that the US Partner Expert panel testing of the scale manufactured product has shown comparable taste and texture when compared to the laboratory product, so does this mean that both the Liquid and freeze-dried products have also passed independent structural analysis and hence are covered by the original patent and GRAS which I believe despite the US partner carrying out minor Customer Trials, was a concern for SOH who would not allow it to go out labelled as Sweetbiotix?"
A "'Everything is completed, we have a range of sweetbiotix products and believe we have a rapid route to regulatory compliance. Smiley, then, all looking good."
Summing up the position with Sweetbiotix from the history of RNS updates and Interviews with SOH;
The US Partner was aiming to produce sweetbiotix at a cost within 10% of the price of sugar which was why the optimisation process on scale-up to remove waste took so long.
Tate and Lyle were one of the named partners who have had access to sweetbiotix for a number of years so potentially a speedy route to market for granulated sweetbiotix, even a restricted early use of sweetbiotix in bags direct to consumers with the right marketing would quickly see it replace sugar for tea and coffee sweeteners leading to a seven figure royalty return per annum.
SOH appears to have confirmed both structural and taste testing have passed independent panel scrutiny and hence will qualify as GRAS in the USA
Surely the market should be more excited about this than it currently is?
Pathetic really.
Jees at least i only repeated my moniker twice in this thread
and that was by mistake and not a trigger
someone lost the plot here?
certainly not the way to grow a business imo but
nevermind
each to their own nirvana
Nirvana is a place of perfect peace and happiness, like heaven. In Buddhism, nirvana is the highest state that someone can attain, a state of enlightenment, meaning a person's individual desires and suffering go away.
Literally, it means “blowing out” or “becoming extinguished,” as when a flame is blown out or a fire burns out.
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That's what he does
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I believe he also encouraged not top sliceing when it was £1.30 ish
This soup is still proving to be illusive on our online site
unfortunately
jees just wish they would publish things when ready to go
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Thanks mol
Wellbiome can also be found on site
https://nmc-magazine.com/wellbiome-from-optibiotix/
but possibly only because i was looking for it - lol
mol
Nutramedic & Cosmetics is the new B2B magazine for industry professionals in health, nutrition and cosmetics sector. It is intended for all those involved in the food supplements, medicines, medical devices, cosmetics and functional foods and drinks production.
Stephen Article pages 14-15
https://nmc-magazine.com/b2b-nutramediccosmetics-no-6-copy/
bit confusing that issue no 8 but ref no 6 in link but nevermind
mol
Touché lordloadsoflolly
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