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this study is important , the incidence in japan is massive , and only picked up using antibody testing
"For a home test of the type ODX produce, why do you need it reviewed? It is a simple positive/negative, so to have it reviewed must mean it is to 'prove' a positive or negative, that would imply some kind of pass can be aquired based on the test?"
Interesting points. I was thinking about this and thought that it allows an independent verification of the test result. This is just in case there is an interpreter error (yes people can mis read simple things). It also acts as a back up in instances where the results aren't clear as all tests have a failure rate or a bad batch. It can potentially help people get support in such cases instead of worrying and running to seek help regarding their results or if they need a repeat test.
I believe those with previous covid symptoms will likely get the antibody test as part of the trial. It will help with future research from those with previous covid symptoms and antibodies. Also the gov can look at areas with local covid outbreaks and if it's less severe if there are more people with covid antibodies (like a local herd immunity)
Gov will order a small batch of tests to cater for this and scale up the order as they get data and a better understanding about this link and its implications
“1/ INCREDIBLE STUDY:
615 adults in Tokyo were prospectively recruited to take Sars-Cov-2 antibody tests.
When the study began 6% had antibodies, indicating exposure.
By mid-summer 47% did. Half the population.
Not one person was hospitalized or died...”
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.09.21.20198796v1.full.pdf
Pfft. All I’ll say is. I hope the MM’s give this a good shake in the morning because I want a few more cheap before this heads North.
Aberdeenman
It makes sense , especially with the start of the seasonal colds ( apparently people on average can catch 5/6 over the autumn and winter ) and having
a positive antibody test every 2/3 months will save
on covid tests every time someone sneezes etc
Looking good .
Not that I had any doubt previously (especially with the BBI leak). But with everything I’ve read up until now it’s clear that is now coming together very nicely.
We’ve challenged the mid 90’s twice, next time we break and we certainly don’t look back.
Aberdeenman , that is exactly my thought . surely the way out of the covid mess is verified those immune and allow them to not isolate and lead a normal life , test them every three months.
"Summary: a home self test covid antibody test where you scan / upload the picture of your result to the app where it is then verified by an external person. No need to go to a test centre and results are instant (none of this waiting for 5 days or chasing results)."
For a home test of the type ODX produce, why do you need it reviewed? It is a simple positive/negative, so to have it reviewed must mean it is to 'prove' a positive or negative, that would imply some kind of pass can be aquired based on the test?
Aberdeenman
so why woudl the nhs app have a section on lateral flow antibody tests . do they know something we dont know
booooooooooooooooooooooom time
Old news, it is just reinforcing that this was always the plan.
“The consortium is working with NHSX – the technology, digital and data service of the NHS – to develop a test specific app and digital service that will facilitate use and reading of the test device. This will have the ability to integrate with NHS systems and update records.“ - https://businessnewswales.com/bbi-solutions-welcomes-uk-rapid-test-consortium-covid-19-progress/
Yep agreed. Just catching up myself and nowt wrong imo retweeting or sharing in case anybody missed it
Yeah, the Twitter posse get there in the end. MU345 shared that this afternoon. We should challenge them for who gets the evolving app story first (I reckon Tco from this board) and MHRA approval. Anyone of about 6 or 7 from this board or Coffee Cup from Twitter.
https://twitter.com/mike23edwards/status/1308735200965296130?s=19
This could be a great indicator that orders are coming
Not up on apps at all. Potentially, if you scan a positive antibody test result would you then be eliminated from contract tracing alerts? Would an app have the power to do that? An immunity passport of sorts without officially being one?
Superdrug keep advertising antibody tests so the demand must be there.
Well I bought and remain a holder now until the end of the story. I did the hokey cokey with ODX too many times pre June/July .
No point holding Antibody tests back till vaccine?! People with antibodies could potentially get back to work / function as normal. Any delay is likely due to the MHSA approval IMO.
So if this app launched tonight is compatibile with the RTC antibidy tests.. could they be launching them tomorrow as well?
Caveat. I'm invested. Is it possible that the roll out of Antibody tests by the govt could be delayed until a vaccine is introduced. To demonstrate that you have Antibodies and thus an immunity passport , albeit for a short period .
"I thought a seperate was being developed for the RTC tests.. ? Is the ODX RTC going to plug into the NHS test and trace app?"
I thought so too. However I believe they may have merged the main features of the RTC app into the NHS test and trace app. It means there is no need to have 2 apps and effectively "one stop super NHS app" where you can use it to upload home antibody tests, , know if you are exposed to covid from nearby app users and information about covid etc.
Yep. Why develop an App with LFT antibody test functionality in it ?
https://twitter.com/LSEoverwatch/status/1308799664024625153
So this is what I've picked up from the app source code (its open source)
1) Covid-19 Antibody Test at Home Web Service is a wep based service that will allow registered users to take an at home Covid-19 Antibody test and get a result of whether they test positive or negative for Covid-19 antibodies.
**This is a currently a Trial Service NOT a Live Service**
2) For taking the test it has steps of logging in, a timer step for the test, opening a webcam to submit a photo / upload a photo
3) Images are sent for a multistage review. If the first reviewer disagrees with the result then it gets passed on to a super reviewer.
Summary: a home self test covid antibody test where you scan / upload the picture of your result to the app where it is then verified by an external person. No need to go to a test centre and results are instant (none of this waiting for 5 days or chasing results).
I thought a seperate was being developed for the RTC tests.. ? Is the ODX RTC going to plug into the NHS test and trace app?
I was just looking at this and inspecting the source code. Seems very interesting. Looks like midnight will be the time to download the app and find out for ourselves!
https://twitter.com/daviedoobs/status/1308804264710594567?s=19