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Let’s see what they say tomorrow!
I held 20 million now 500k 40 to one will have to buy afew million more to get my money back no choice but to average down .
I agree Wookiemonster not a great hale of PR to promote a new listing and build excitement for the new company…!. I wonder if some of it was the last minute to raise funds and not enough time to do the rounds to the media outlets..? I’m just hopeful that like so many companies it’s not talk and they have business and plans to make this company grow I would be far more grateful for that and then the market will follow… fingers crossed
Dickbat if any of us get our investments back after Minty the lying leech conned everyone with his false company then it’ll be fantastic. All the best to Guardian, I’m simply surprised at the total lack of PR, promotion or zero launch effort and wonder how this won’t crash and burn on open. Many less patient than me.
How do they expect to grow or get taxis 50p a share when they are located under a rock.
Taxi why don’t you try and be less rude, you sound like your mate Marbur.. "the stock market is merely a mechanism for transfering wealth from the impatient to the patient" been in this share for years!, can’t stand childish comments like that. Incredibly narcissistic , condescending and weak statement.
If the company act like you I doubt anyone would want to be involved!!
But don’t worry I’ll be here until I get all my money back or loose it all. Your or they won’t get away with it that easy I’m afraid. Bad luck :)
Do they have a website I or any institutions or importantly customers might look at?
Good luck all …A new start and thank God without a Minty in site..!! especially some of us very long-term holders that have lost fortunes!! Maybe we might see a little of our money over the last 10 years.!!
Thanks Dickbat. Its really obvious that most of the holders here wont be around in a few weeks and there not being given a specific reason to hang about. All is as it should be, the stock market is merely a mechanism for transfering wealth from the impatient to the patient
Wookiemonster I hear what your saying…but Taxi has a point as a small company they look for placings from institutions and fund mangers… not direct to small private investors that only tends to happen a lot later on in the development of the company… so we are irrelevant and and our shares don’t pay there wages or development we can either choose to go along with the ride… but I do like the fact our CEO has the right background and go getter attitude and most Important and quite rare his own money on the table and not a token amount.!
The institutions will divvy up money in the future, I dont think there will general placings. The main listing was createed to (1) give stevens an exit route in 2 years time (2l to provide credibility with custoners, (3) to access institutional funds (4,) to allow an exit route for minor shareholders.
It was not created to impress or retain wookies
Should have just called up their mates for more money! :)
So your saying taxi.
This company has no want, need or respect for new investors when this comes back, just contempt.
Well that certainly is a good start and bound to reel them in. What a waste of money and time listing on the LSE.
i am guessing that within 10 days private shareholders will own less then 10% of Guardian, so we are uber irrelevant
Private punters are hassle and time consuming to placate. No they dont want us. What they want are a few select institutions that will hold the shares rather then trading them like as if they were playing in a casino. The company will be managed now in a more adult manner it has left AIM in common with other main listings. The general public will only be "sold" when 1 or more of the institutions or bigger shareholders wishes to reduce. Frankly, we are irrelevant and own less then 20% of the new group as I see it. Its hard for you to accept this, I know, but there wont be any fireside chats from the new group. Its becoming a business, no different from Securicor or ADT.
The main point you are missing is. This is a new company.
No one here invested in Guardian and so far have been given little or no incentive to remain? And my point simply is. That’s a bit cr*p if they want to grow the company and bring in new public investment, being, a soon to be public AKG listed company.
Do they have a website?
ludicrous assumptions taxi.
Website?
Also why on Earth list on a public stock exchange if you assume they view us as you say “selling their ideas to people like you” yes and YOU taxi.. being an supposed investor or potential investor. People like me.. what absolute rubbish.
So your saying no point selling their idea on a publicly listed company??? so why on Earth bother listing? If they’re just going to find money from their “city mates” that’s such 90s thinking…
Not that I care if you believe me or not but myself and other “people like me” types each have 100s of thousands that would happily invest, but according to you, they don’t need or want that?
Wookie maybe someone should have told u when yu were younger that everyone is equal but some people are more equal then others.
Its not corrupt for Guardian to keep in good terms with the city and the market makers, its essential if they are going to raise funding and mount future placings/rights issues. No one at Guardian expects the general public will stump any further cash so their is no point selling the ideas to people like you. The public also dont own that much any more of the NUOG story, now Guardian, so its somewhat academic whether you sell or others sell anyway. At best its going to be a one or two day wonder when the legacy stock is dumped by people like yourself. Then the shares will be in safer more longer term hands. I think, by the way, you should be aware that Stevens is locked in for 2 years on his shares, and I am sure, the placees are locked in for at least 1 year, as is normal in such cases when people receive stock at preferential prices. I doubt any of that will be sold on Monday, although I accept you and others like you will grab the opening price if you can.
If those seed investors are not locked in for a year or more all they will do is unload in chunks as this comes back at a higher price they paid for.
Do Guardian even have a website? Doesn’t show up on Google search?
Agree with they would of had to show some sort of incentives for anyone to invest but EXACTLY the sort of corrupt thing we don’t want is your comment:
“if they have something up their sleave they will want to keep the good news to themselves and their city friends“
the exact sort of nuog legacy stuff and back handed deals we don’t want here again…
I cant see the backers coming up with 2 million on the scenario you envisage of zero incentives. Whether they will be shared with private punters is another matter especially as we now only hold minority stakes in aggregate. Its also the case of if they have something up their sleave they will want to keep the good news to themselves and their city friends, as in all these things. Why allow prospective shareholders to piggy back off their back? Those who patient MAY reap the reward, and I suspect the AGM and the annual report may shed some light on the future direction of the business. I however refuse to believe that they went for a main listing just to sell a few pirate barriers. But there is it.
“Plans will only be divulged (after) the price has risen” - lunatic.. why would a price rise if no reason for it!?? Unless a pump and dump.
“Why should they share their money with you”? - it’s not their money!! They already stolen most of everyone’s shares. Also that’s just so stupid a comment, thats the point of investing, more like why should we share our money with them!!!! why should we remain invested, why do they deserve OUR money!
What is amusing is that you assume I don’t want this to come back and do well. Which is not the case. But the fact is we have no buzz, no reasons yet to hold or buy and zero outlook yet. We need ppl queuing at the door to get in, we need buyers and a reason to buy tomorrow if they come back.
Just a realist taxi. You think this is going to the moon. But we have next to zero info. This comes back tomorrow at whatever price and ppl will just sell… because they’ve been trapped and have a chance to recover something but no reason to hold! Especially as not the company or reason they invested.
The fact that there isn’t any hype is because there is nothing to be hyped about?
This needs buyers when it comes back!! And actually it does need hype. It really needs it!! Better to open high and plunge. Than open low and plunge..
Very surprised not to see any warm up info. Ppl like me just have no incentive or reason to hold. So atm when / if this comes back tomorrow all is see it is it being NT to sell as it falls and falls.
Hope not as would like to recover all my investment. But was hoping for some incentive to hold by now at least! Which is why they either won’t list or it’ll be a bloodbath as legacy holders flee..
Obviously your ramping it up and being optimistic because you want your money back as well, understand that.
Very bad lead up to listing imo. Let’s hope they open the doors with some very strong incentives.
Yes, lets all sell on Monday at half a penny?
I am sure lots of us are gagging to take that
At the same time we might as well cut our wrists?
Yes, no buzz on this which I take as a good positive sign
"Buzzy" refoat stocks usually open unsubstainably high and plunge
Plans will only be divulged (after) the price has risen.
Why should they share their money with you?
Your amusing Wookie
It certainly won’t. I think it’ll be more like 0.5 - 1p Monday if it happens. I don’t see much buzz around this at all? Is there any?
And chances never see 50p as bound to get diluted to death!! But maybe if consolidated might see 50p a share one day..
Just have to see what plans they might have, never know they might have a cunning plan. Hopefully find out next week.
Wookiemonster i said 5p on relist, 50p in two years if all goes well. The stock wont be 50p on relist
Ah ha, well even less exciting then!