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Yes, thanks Soup & YB for your excellent posts. Like Chab I find your knowledge and research most useful.
Hope when news does hit, it’s going to be good, as the loss of Dan is very strange.
Soup
Thanks for all your well informed posts, day in day out that keeps this bb level headed. Your knowledge and research is most useful (as we here sweet fa of any substance from the company).
ATB
I do, they portray great knowing of people and their behaviour... thank you for your contribution to my research soup
Enjoy your observations.
Just stating an observation based on the watching of these boards over some years.
Thats all my lad
Don’t follow what you mean Bob?
All that’s happening is YB made a statement and I’ve asked for it to be evidenced. As yet there is no evidence to back up the claim. That’s all.
The alternative is to wait, eventually the Ebers patents will be public, then you will see that those previously discussed are nothing to do with Ebers.
The timing strategy of your postings reminds me of others in your vein soup...
Yorkshireman - great posts and a good read. Thanks
Ok YB, I hear your point. Let’s put this another way.
If any of those patents are related to the Ebers deal, can you point me to a single word in any of the documents in any of them that relates in any way to cannabinoid compounds?
Soup I have previously admired some of your previous posts but unfortunately you have gone down in my estimation and do not take any pleasure in saying that. I have no problem with anyone criticising my posts if it can be justified, as no one is infallible. However, I feel you are spending to much time trying to impress on this BB and I hate to say it but you may have lost the plot or are trying to play games or you just need to go to spec savers. You appear to be taking things I have posted too personally, which has never been my intention.
I take no satisfaction in highlighting discrepancies made by a fellow poster, but I would suggest you proofread what you write, as your post Today 17:31 is pure nonsense. ‘Unfortunately I fear you may have not understood that Canadian government documents use the format YYYY-MM-DD, whereas your post (6 jul 22:33) works on the YYYY-DD-MM, therefore your timings are essentially wrong.’
Ref: see national Standards Council of Canada for confirmation.
https://www.scc.ca/en/standardsdb/standards/4449
This would mean that the first patent #1 (CA 2846460) was issued prior to any deal with Ebers. So is not relevant as you thought as it is dated January, not September.
I often refer to myself as a ‘Simple Yorkshire Lad’ but that cannot be further from the truth, so please don’t try to take the p**s. I have forgotten more about pharmaceutical research than you will ever know and would advise you to read my post again. Yes if I ever quote dates etc I always transpose these into my native timeline and that of the audience who will be reading it. The following is my exact transcript (you quote), which is completely different from what you are trying to insinuate: -
‘This #1 Patent for Ebers was granted patent status and issued on 01/08/2019 although we were not notified of it until 9th September 2019 RNS Number 6247L.’
Please feel free to check all my posts as then I will not have to worry about grammatical/spelling irregularities. I have not taken my bat and ball home and will continue to post information relevant to my investments as I think fit. Although, I will not be concerned whether you read them or not, however, if you post anything relevant, I will applaud you for sharing it. Good luck, stay well and let us please support NFX in achieving their objectives, not in ‘tit for tat’ correspondence. YB
Good afternoon Yorkshireboy,
I'll try to be succinct in my response in my best Simon Armitage way, although its difficult to reduce the complexity down sometimes.
As on overarching position, I understand that you are looking at the timeline of the patents filings and issue which you have then cross referenced to the news from RNS.
Unfortunately I fear you may have not understood that Canadian government documents use the format YYYY-MM-DD, whereas your post (6 jul 22:33) works on the YYYY-DD-MM, therefore your timings are essentially wrong.
Ref: see national Standards Council of Canada for confirmation.
https://www.scc.ca/en/standardsdb/standards/4449
This would mean that the first patent #1 (CA 2846460) was issued prior to any deal with Ebers. So is not relevant as you thought as it is dated January, not September.
Furthermore, on the patents pages you link to, go to the documents tab for the patents and you can read each of the correspondence over time between the company and patents office. This shows that the work done since filing has been to ratify a number of the initial claims, not amend them to incorporate cannabinoids.
If you go through each patent you are interested in and open up the documents section, these show the process that has been gone through.
So, now we look at APREPITANT L-PROLINE.
We know that APREPITANT is sold under the brand name, Emend and that L_Proline is an amino acid part of proteins, so this shows that the cocrystal is formed of those.
Again the documents section identifies theses cocrystals and doesn't indicate any use of cannabinoids that would place it in the Ebers camp.
The Ebers deal does appear to be ticking along with work happening, but unfortunately I do not believe the patents you refer to relate to that work in particular. They may do in future, but not in the links you gave.
Enjoy the rest of the day.
Soup my apologies for not being able to reply earlier, but sometimes business dictates how much time we can give to other life areas. I hope you are well and enjoying the NFX ride, it reminds me a bit of the ‘Big Dipper’ at Blackpool pleasure beach with its ups/downs and the occasional settled moments. Personally, I’m enjoying the experience although I appreciate that for some it can be fraught at times. I will try and ensure that this post doesn’t turn into one of the ‘Bronte’ (by the way riosurfer an excellent post} novels, but unfortunately, I can’t promise.
Unfortunately, I find myself a little discombobulated by your post on 06 July 2020 23:01 as I did not realise that we ‘are in disagreement’! However, it would be of great help to myself and I’m sure others if you can please clarify/expand on your statement ‘Two points, look up what ‘Aprepitant’ is and you’ll find it’s relating to NXP001 and nothing to do with Ebers.’
Therefore, I would like to ask a genuine question. I agree it is very much associated with NXP001, especially within the growing oncology supportive care market. Does that mean it is restricted to this specialist market? If so, I sincerely apologise as it means I have completely misunderstood, because under the English Abstract and Claims section it states: -
’The 1:1:1 aprepitant L-proline H20 composition or cocrystal may be used in the same way as aprepitant to treat or prevent disorders relating to emesis, a neuropsychiatric disease, an inflammatory disease, pairs, cancer, a skin disease, itch, a respiratory disease, or an addiction.’
You may also be correct that it is ‘nothing to do with Ebers’? However, my assumption/hypothesis has been that news released by NFX means that certain patent milestones have been achieved and the timeline fits this, with the patent ownership remaining with the current owners Nuformix. I am sure we both try to post informative and evidence-based facts which may be beneficial for investors. Therefore, I have no problem if you disprove my hypothesis if investors receive the appropriate information.
Good luck and keep well.
YB
Soup - Alan Bennet, the Brontes...some fine writers from Yorkshire. Sarcasm makes you appear a small minded loser, which I am sure you are not.
Funny when I posted the info on VistaGen a week ago no one seemed interested. This week it's very important. Fickle lot.
ATB
Yes let’s call truce. The whole lost data rumour is based on a comment from a poster on the daily mail forum or is there something more substantive behind?
Well let’s agree to disagree! I personally think it’ll be much sooner especially now with the bod wanting to prove a point! Plus if lost/found data by kissie is true! I’m looking forward to the FY results and hope the bod will give us an update on nxp004 and possibly the NXP002 Japanese deal!
Oh yeah that old chestnut, news next week dammed if you don’t agree! Been hearing that from certain posters since October last. In my opinion the hints from the RNS would suggest that NXP002 deal news not until year . When I made that comment I didn’t think DT or CPI would sell below 5p , but there you go SP will be fairly depressed until NXP002 news.
Randomchancer- I feel we have lots of news coming over the next couple of months! Hopefully it’s all good news but we will see. Gla
Randomchancer - I’d rather be a ramper than a deramper like you!
Love your post about probably won’t get a decent RNS until Christmas! And then saying best to sell! That’s pure solid gold!
Scaryone - do us all a favour and give it a break. Healthy scenario where you have two informed posters cross examining each other’s research. Rampers like you have consumed this Bb since of year!
Soupdragon78 - don’t get me wrong some of your info is fine, it’s just you pull apart everyone else posts! Gla
But everyone’s post you break down! Just stop! Please....
Scaryone, ‘nobody cares’ really? Nobody cares about knowing what the company is doing?
Why do you say I shouldn’t correct someone’s post that is factually incorrect?
What’s the point of a forum if not to have these discussions?
As you can see I’ve said to YB that we shall have to disagree, unlike you I haven’t tried to silence another poster. Why do you want me to be quiet? Is it because it doesn’t suit your agenda to have someone correct something that isn’t the truth?
Do you think I should have been silent when others tried to say NXP002 was made up and didn’t exist? I didn’t see you coming to challenge that.
Maybe a bulletin board isn’t a place for a snowflake like you.
I’m grateful for two brilliant posters crossing swords for us all to see .
They have both spent time and effort educating many of us for which I am grateful
Soupdragon78 - mate nobody cares! Yorkshireman has posted some great info and you still rip it apart! Just take a day off