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Same old weed ‘only need x amount of that market’ has been used time and time again only to end in failure. I wouldn’t fall for that old chestnut. Wonder when Lord City is joining the board with his side company recouping his investment?
Toffee are you still watching waiting for smaller spread or pre launch advertising to start on Bet ? Assuming it does
It’s not what’s done ,it’s the way it’s been done .I really won’t list all of it again but here is just one example of many .silver you say Krunch was essential,let’s say I agree but you see no problem in paying 720k for 51% of a company that lost 85k( let’s ignore the 700 k for the 49%) ,so Mos had control and reduced overheads to discover 18 months later the outgoing costs and charges had continued to ignite ME having partnership holdings in both , and Mos is paying for rent and Heroes site maintenance 🤷🏼♂️ to ignite, really site maintenance ,and you honestly don’t see why “as city says no business man” sees this as prime example of lifestyle company, and the fact it also appeared to be kept quiet,to the extent big investors on this very BB claiming no links between ignite/mos/ME by giving other names … and you can’t see why some have trust issues, welcome back toffee again , are you still waiting for spread to reduce or pre launch advertising to start for BET , assuming that occurs. City the party would have cost more than the revenue from Bitso or the zero NFT from artist , hence the biggest benefit to Mos/ME was a party (I won’t mention our new director also enjoyed it)
Here is some reading around Mexico and betting. To save anyone leg work. From the partner that owns approx 10% of MOS. Released today.
Mexico: the New iGaming Giant in Latin America?
https://www.watechnology.com/news/mexico-the-new-igaming-giant-in-latin-america
Amtech. - you point out that there are lots and lots of betting companies and competition, and ask the question re what sets MOS apart?
When you say MOS I assume that refers to EstadioBET? While I do believe there are things that give EstadioBET an edge, I also believe that there doesn't need to be anything that sets EstadioBET apart at all. It just has to grab a few percent of the overall Mexican gambling market. There is room for competition. Especially as the Mexican gambling market is growing.
Just my ramblings
Thought you would have researched that Amtech - i'll pass on that one given that i will only be accused of ramping.
Lots and lots of betting companies and competition in Mexico City, what sets MOS apart? No threats to have me thrown off the board like last time eh
...3m @ .445 - will show as a sell as just below mid price.
Slightly larger holding now than originally planned however I see this as a genuine multi bagger if all goes to plan.
Silversprings: agree.
Well said Citytilidie. A great summary of the story to date. I think most would actually struggle to list companies that have done particularly well over the last few years - either in terms of share price or actually making progress. There was one particular company today that announced a second placing after they announced one yesterday and I read that RNS wondering where the hell the millions and millions are going. I appreciate longer term shareholders that don't understand the company as well as some will be annoyed but I think it is unfair to say that they are not progressing (you explain it much better).
Thanks Siversprings - you put it a lot more eloquently than i can.
I am not here to lock horns with anyone purely trying to explain what the company are building and why.
I am not having a go at anyone Scotty I am merely saying that people aren't looking deep enough into what the company are doing and will attribute any of the SP decline to the market in general.
As for the jollies comment - how about this from Lost Money.
Look the Bitso deal ensured ME got a good party in Mexico out of it so it’s fine🤣 and that deal for the arts NFT and look how well that’s doing ,🤫
It’s a difficult one because the performance of the SP has been undeniably poor to date, and individually all the ventures haven’t worked as stand alone concepts so far.
But…. The only way the company even has this latest opportunity is because of the acquisitions of Krunch, the acquisition of livescores, the NFT relationships with owners of Necaxa and Atlante, the partnership with Bitso, the development put into the software platform by MOS, none of it is wasted if this new venture works and in fact if the new venture works it will be precisely because of all these components that MOS have built. Quite simply why would any of these companies partner with MOS for BET if it was offering nothing? Its data platform is still extremely valuable to them.
It’s now or never though as eventually the progress has to translate to revenue and value.
To be honest the one in the greenbox who I filtered months ago should have been banned long before guzzler. Those who read at the time his disgusting, vile and sub intelligent bile filled comments will know what I mean. How he avoided a permanent ban I will never know.
Right on cue, here he is, having a go at investors once more. May I remind him, his fellow members of the MOS echo chamber has told him time and time again to stay away from this bulletin board but he just cannot help himself, he thrives on confrontation.
To insinuate all this has been done to facilitate " jollies " line the BOD's pocket - Just looked through the thread City but cannot see where anybody has posted this, except for you that is.
You see that's where the argument falls down - the single reason why people are disgruntled is the SP and to some extent the fact the company has had to raise to invest in such things as the NFT contracts and Bet.
To say say the company has failed is complete rubbish, whats failed is that fact that investors can't see what the company are doing and what they are building and where this is all going to lead -i'll post a link to this again so people can try and grasp things.
https://www.mobilestreams.com/pdf/MOS-RevenueStreams-2024030301.pdf
We have NFT contracts with some major sporting brands and people in Mexico, Spain and South Africa, some of the owners of these brands are also owners of Estadio Bet/Talk and Capital Media Sports.
We have a partnership with one of the largest financial companies in Mexico ( Bitso ) who have over 6 million clients/wallet holders.
We have a 27% share in a brand new online Betting Company and Talk Radio Company and 10% in a huge Sports Media Company who are and will even more so be aligned with everything that MOS are doing then of course we come onto Livescores which will be an affiliate of bet which we still wholly own.
To insinuate all this has been done to facilitate " jollies " line the BOD's pocket or that they have failed IMO is disingenuous, what has failed is people inability to accept the AIM market has been terrible over the past couple of years and also recognise a young tech company like MOS takes time and investment to build.
Look at the likes of Gfin and Bidstack, one gone bump and the other sold off its main asset for £250k leaving shareholders with literally nothing to look forward to, AVCT from highs of 150.00 to 52.40 in a year which is supposed to be a "darling " of aim ???
Perhaps I'm a glass half full person but the majority of the things the company built over the past couple of years now leads to this and that diagram above - it all fits !
This isn't a ramp its fact and i think people will be surprised just how quickly things will move with Bet/Talk and how the value of those will increase very quickly.
Certainly been some City bashing but that’s warranted DUDE
Techno - I agree with Scotty - I do not believe there has been any "orchestrated stock bashing event" here as such, just comments and opinions of individual disgruntled investors.
Techno. I think the resentment has a lot to do not so much with bad experiences but more towards the `incompetence` of the board in the past. You as a new investor to Mos has not experienced this but we have had to endure failings after failings then ME to just completely change the model of the business completely in search of another rainbow. It would seem that we may strike lucky with this latest venture but it has come at a huge loss to many many investors. All the while we have also had City ramping each venture and berating anybody who will not sing from his hymn sheet. Let`s hope like I say, that this latest venture bodes well for the future.
That's an interesting post and thank you for bringing that up. Other than MOS appearing like it's at a very attractive price that is along the lines I what I suspected. With all stocks you get people that have had a bad experience and then post their views but one of the things that interested me was the disproportionate amount of "haters" and that seemed suspect as I have said a few times. I am looking forward to seeing what news flows from MOS over the next few months.
My point was that the new NED, John Barker (RoleyBirkin) was keeping a close eye on who said what, etc on this board, If you check back RB did call out Guzzler on this board for allegedly misinformation and that is what Guzzler (aka stuie62) now says he was banned for, Draw your own conclusions.
No city not bashing ,normally countering your constant ramping posts , trust me every one I’m a TR1 holder, wink wink ,funny how when you didn’t post ,in passing ( without mentioning you,or considering your previous input ) it was posted on how a more balanced discussion was occurring on this BB ,regarding the possible upside of BET even Techno pointed about a softening of sentiment by the less positive posters ,I think Weedave made a similar comment on the discussions ,and yes it started with Techno and Weedave balanced opinions but it started to catch on , then you started your constant Mos /ME does nothing wrong rubbish again., And no I’m not trying to save anyone,
TBF Hepseal they were “ stock bashing “
Lothbury you are posting about something you literally no nothing about so by that it is conjecture !
Stop trying to second guess things - just wait and see what comes then make an informed decision on news ?
Interestingly Guzzler now posts under a different name on ADVFN and says he was banned from LSE.
I suspect JP was probably banned as well.