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It seems that the 180p has a double bottom and the horizontal support was not broken. There aren't any trading updates due at the moment, I am looking to get back long, there are lots of customers that are into the current vegan, vegetarian (&*^*&atarian) diets and M&S has been very good to position itself on this trend, last year they won “Vegan-Friendly High Street Retailer” award. GLA
ke today I discovered an enormous black hole in a certain supermarkets payments system
which they said was 'impossible'
Not impossible my thicko friends light cant travel round bends
Im not going to tell you the details as secret knowledge of it is very possibly advantageous
but if its true in a few days this has incredible implications with millions of awry payments
and customer refunds due
Im sure its not intentional but it is in favour of the s markets
Travelex was hacked and the bank couldnt pay out
now I dont know about that but I overheard a woman customer saying your payments are up the creek
I am not going to explain what is wrong in detail for free on a page like this but let me tell you
those dang till machines are right ropey
and on ocaasiion dont seem to be able to the math of a 10 yr old
" Small buy order in for 180, should it get there."
good luck...but it may be a case of not when it gets there, but whether it will stop .....February snows and bad weather are not traditionally good for retail share prices, as footfall drops off
Small buy order in for 180, should it get there.
I like the huge French Hypermarkets when I can get to them
One was built near S Hampton on the 1970s A Carrefour the council made them build it underground
Its lasted a year or so but 2 many probs shipping in the Brittany butter across stormy seas
Its now an Asda
I have tried all the supermarkets food as Mrs C occasionally brings home something from lidl or aldi - we also shop at waitrose and tesco - none of them including waitrose are as good as marks - waitrose is a close second but overall marks is superior- it is all about the quality - yes you pay more but I can pay more and have no problem paying more - you pay for what you get my Dad used to say and its true - same with clothes - if you want quality go to marks if you want cheap crap go to primark -
I used to work for a manufacturing company that supplied branded products and non branded products to the same retail companies (all the big food retailers), the difference in end product was the non branded products were made with inferior produce
It wasn't the lookalike packaging I was referring too, that is just marketing which helps customers understand where things may have come from, it was actually watching out of my office window the suppliers arrive at the depots of both businesses in Middleton and Lutterworth delivering the supplies.
Totally up to you Bobsto12, if you are happy paying a premium for the same products each week, I bet if you were offered 1.90 per M&S share to buy on HL and 1.50 to buy the same M&S share on another site you would choose HL................GL with that.
Except it is.
Marie's don't own chicken farms, carrot farms or anything else they buy it on the market like anyone else
Just because the discounters deliberately put their stuff in look a like packaging does not mean it the same quality or even made in the same factory as any taste test would reveal only too clearly. I know a lot of people think the look a like packaging means it is the same product but it really isn't, it's just a con for the gullible. I notice brands are starting to litigate about it now.
Bobsto12 - I am not a holder, just an interested retailer, I am not a deramper either, I just would not invest my money in such a shambolic place, how many chances do they need to get it right, the story is the same every year and has been for years now.
I did work for both Aldi and Lidl however back in the 1990s when they were very new to the UK and spent time in Germany with them. Their quality is not shi*e to be fair, it is excellent, always was, and it continues to improve each year. Their wines, chocolate, tinned products, and now even their fresh product matches up to the best of the others including M&S, they share many of the same suppliers, it is simply British brand snobbiness which remains - think about it, how many factories actually make washing powder in the UK, how many make biscuits, it is limited, and these factories supply all the major foodies, it is just the packaging that changes.
So no not a shareholder, never will be, nevertheless I am interested to read the BB of retailers especially to keep an eye on what is happening. I will now leave you all to your investment, GL
Funny how the 20 somethings today all want to be hip like an old man
dope-hoodies-hey man-JEANS-yet they despise same olf peep from that era
conflicted and insecure if ya ask em
you cant have it both ways
When I walk round today i feel im in a horror movie
everyone is trying to do what i did effortessly 50 years ago
get o levels get A levels get job look 'cool'
it seems like a ghastly crazy mirror being held up in my face and im invisible
its like ive never existed never done this stuff.
even the blue and green hair and so on all remiscent of 'punk'
to the older gen all this is just a huge borezzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
they seen it done it.
and its all wrong
but theres no telling deaf and dumb phone addicted yoof
Actually not 'everyone'wears jeans
Though are very............common.....i grant ya
Blue jeans were a fashion craze from 1958-1979.
They went trhu various permuatuions drainpipes flared baggy
But that was then this is now
Let the millenials find their own style.
They cant cause they are tense ignorant and narrow (TIN)
they wouldnt create their own scene if it came and bit them on the back side
hence they pilfer and borrow from 60s 70s culture.
MY youth culture.
GET YOUR OWN CULTURE DONT COPY MINE!
You are pathetic
Blue jeans went with pop festivals and so on.
'proper'fetsivals not the glastonbury of today.
Blue jeans were originally a despised garment amongst the upper middle class
no self respceting memmber would be seen dead in them
they stood for mods rockers communists and lefties.
when i see a young girl in st wearaing ripped jeans i want to puke
Could you even sew a shirt?
Try it in yr living room
Get a tailor 80 pounds labour plus 40 for cloth
of yr choice
Trbl is you can dress like beau brummel and 95% british slobs in high st will take **** or just ignore ya.
M&S said it overestimated demand for tight-fitting men's clothing in the run-up to Christmas.
Appreciate I have already written on this but I saw this on BBC News and it beggars belief.....I quote
"M&S says it over estimated the demand for tight fitting mens clothing in the run up to Christmas, as a result, the High Street retailer said it had ordered more "regular" and "relaxed-fit" clothing for spring. M&S boss, Steve Rowe, said "disappointing" issues, such as the surplus of skinny menswear, held the firm back from a stronger performance over Christmas."
No sh*t Sherlock, quelle surprise! Seriously, how much are these people paid, how many men wanting a skinny fit anything shop in M&S, just look around, most people are overweight, M&S customers, most of whom are elderly, are certainly packing a few extra pounds and probably 45-50+ at best, probably more like 60+, just walk round your stores on a weekend Mr Rowe and take a look, how many pensioners are in the market for skinny trousers and shirts? If you cannot get the basics right god help you, I am going bananas here, I am staggered they get such simple things wrong and perhaps even more staggered they have the bare nosed cheek to admit it, I would be embarrassed.........aaaarrgghh! What next year will it be, couldn't sell £500 leather jackets in a size 6 and 8, struggled to sell enough mens socks in the 4-7 and 11-14 size range......get a grip M&S, you are doomed.
The discounters sell mostly ****e. It isn't anything remotely comparable to m&s in what they offer as is evidenced by today's food figures. Not a shareholder but you are very wrong.
agree 3put - plenty of noise on here - same old duffers who were saying sell when mks hit 163p - some good stuff in marks now - good quality clothing and a fair price when compared to its main competitors which are next and zara - the roll out of ocado will basically take away waitrose customers and give them to marks ( and I don't think anyone can dispute that marks food is not capable of doing that) - that will in effect give marks a lot more customers to pitch at - I added today at 195p and will reinvest the dividend tomorrow
Lots of posters in here saying how bad the stores are, and yet they seem to know a lot about what is in the stores and where they're going wrong, surely if you didn't like M&S you wouldn't be going in there in the first place ? I'm smelling shorters !
Personally I am liking what I'm seeing in there in the last year, it's the only clothes shop (in Aylesbury) I'm actually finding stuff I like when I didn't before and their designs are constantly changing, I bought 3 jumpers/polo shirts yesterday - fairly priced for those that can afford it, yes I'm middle aged, yes I can afford it, and no I don't own any shares, personally I can see a turnaround here
People esp young but also a lot of older Peops dont buy clothes from m&s because the styling is often a bit naff. It is increasingly beyond belief that they haven't managed to ever fix this.
The skinny clothes fiasco is a new low but if they ever got things right the clothing could really take off.
In the 70s and 80s m&s had a reputation as being pretty sharp. They invented the market for pre prepared sandwiches and ready grated cheese etc. Everyone said they were mad.
just never got why Aldi and Lidl have improved every year. Well as a regular in Aldi I could tell them! Who the hell does the mkt research? They need to go.
I think M&S used to carry forward from one generation to another. Kids clothes and older people. They have sadly lost an entire generation. The staple market for quality pants socks etc.. moved. Even older people prefer Primark and other retailers. As ever they seem to get the food right but very little else. Serious stuff when John Lewis sacks their top man..
Might be wise to have a look at some USA stores who seem to be surviving better. Learn.
IntraTrader - and it is worse than that, traditionally families trade up at Xmas and spend a little more on food, even more so during tougher economic times surprisingly, this is where in previous years M&S has done well, bulk shop at the supermarket and then the add ons and treats from M&S.
However the discounters have stolen a march on this and increased their ranges superbly over recent years taking away the need to trade up in the likes of M&S, that is a really serious problem for them and I am struggling to see how they get that back, once the discounters establish their brand quality which they have now done pretty well, why pay 30-40% more for a product at M&S? They are under attack and experience of the last few years suggests they do not know how to react and what to do, they have had so many chances.
LOL at both of you.
Everyone wears Jeans!
No one under the age of 50 would buy them from M&S unless their Wives, Mothers or GF's had bought them for them.
The only way forward for M&S retail stores is to ditch the clothing.
This is heading for the same outcome as BHS, Woolworths etc etc
Not great for a company to under-perform during the Christmas period, specially in UK where there is an extra day dedicated to shopping (Boxing day). In the short term this might re-test the 160p area set last year. Potential bounce after, I'm short till then... IMHO, GL!