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Dflynch,
Thank you for your detailed observations , on which I wholeheartedly agree.
LTI
As someone, now mainly recovered, from long term ME / CFS and with a lung condition, I do not wish long Covid on almost anyone.
Those that bleat are those who' lives are disrupted, business decimated, going to the food bank or are intelligent enough to think outside the box and realize what are being fed does not stack up. Those who put them in the naughty corner and advocate further restrictions are well off enough to not to have to worry or it doesn't affect them, so really its a case of the bleaters and the I'm alright jackers, those with missed/late diagnosis and treatment will reap the consequences, why do they keep harping on about ICU capacity when they have the Nightingale Hospitals sitting there waiting, or are they a stunt?
lti,
"Some want to ignore C19 and carry on life as normal, and others want a total shutdown of the whole UK".
Some? Others? What about the majority who sit in the middle? The responsible folk who are more than capable of managing their own situation/s? Most importantly what about The Social Contract? You might be happy to be holed up for ever and a day in your fortunate state, what about the rest out there who have not achieved a "fortunate" state? The responsible folk in the middle have every right to bleat - as you put it.
The older you are the more likely you are to die from C19 excluding health problems/genetic and unexplained reasons , but most cases are under the age of 60.
I would like to point out that it is not a question of dying from C19 or surviving and being OK.
There is the question of 'long Covid' where survivors will suffer long term consequences from having contracted C19.
dflynch
I'm afraid that whatever the government decide regarding restrictions there will be those bleating about the decision.
Some want to ignore C19 and carry on life as normal, and others want a total shutdown of the whole UK. Having a view one way or the other doesn't necessarily make it the right thing to do.
It is the government that has to make the choice, and whatever the choice there will be unhappy people.
John46
"The CV Stats we are given aren't detailed enough."
You are so correct, but the partial data we are provided is purposefully directed at supporting media hysteria and the decisions of the headless chickens, who justify their existence by pecking around Whitehall and preening before the CV19 Honours Committee.
Those supposedly responsible for interpreting data and making critical decisions on our behalf are failing in their duty. Their ability to apply simple practical information analysis and ask pertinent questions is blatantly lacking – through negligence or ignorance is not clear.
It is reported that the median age of those who have succumb to CV19 is 82.5 years, which is higher than the average life expectancy! We are told that the demand for CV19 ICU beds have increased by 50% in a week. They well may have! But if the occupancy rate of ICU beds last week was 10%, then the occupancy rate for this week has only increased to 15% - albeit the increase is correctly the hysterical media headline attractive 50%.
Sweden’s population is stated to be 10.2 million and 103,000 cases of CV19 have been reported there. Deaths attributable to CV19 is given as 5918. These figures indicate that 1% of the Swedish population has been infected by the disease and of those infected 5.75% died. Effectively 0.06% of the Swedish population have deaths attributable to CV19!
The UK’s population is stated to be 65 million and 722,000 cases of CV19 have been reported here. Deaths attributable to CV19 is given as 43,500. These figures indicate that 1.1% of the UK population has been infected by the disease and of those infected 6% died. Effectively 0.067% of the UK population have deaths attributable to CV19!
There is LITTLE difference in the mortality and infection rates of CV19 between the Swedish and the UK populations. But there is a VAST difference in the way that their respective Governments have treated their populations!
Is it NOW the time that our representatives in Parliament held HMG to account for the dystopian strategy that they have allowed the HIGNFY (Have I Got New For You) team at number10 to inflict and enforce on the UK population?
private pensions
not only final salary, also private salary pensions
LTI,
"The numbers of C19 cases can be controlled more by the behaviour of the individual than the actions taken by government."
Why should individuals place their trust in GOV , when previous administrations have bankrupted their future , (borrowing their future to maintain feel good factor now ) . That includes Gordon Brown decimation of final salary pension schemes . Folk have a right to question the BS we a fed .
The CV Stats we are given aren't detailed enough .
Broaden your outlook !
XX
If it’s ok to do private treatments then it’s ok to do NHS treatments, it’s the same medical staff doing both private and NHS.
A question of waiting for the treatment or waiting for the practice management/hosptial admin to decide if they're stood on their heads or their feet - cos they're not altogether sure how their systems are operating?
Urgent treatments are available as always. For non urgent then it's a question of waiting.
C19 is obviously causing increased numbers of the urgent treatment type .
The numbers of C19 cases can be controlled more by the behaviour of the individual than the actions taken by government.
It’s pretty awful that everything is being sacrificed for Covid 19, life goes on regardless we need other medical treatments too! And yes, I do know what it’s like to have Covid 19, not very pleasant but we need other medical treatments.
be thankful it was only a tooth Walkersworld, our friend is paying for his new hip next week in this "just what is it all about world?"
I won't be going anywhere unless I have to. I have the luxury of not having to work, which has enabled me to have been in a lockdown bubble since mid March helping to look after family cancer patients.
Broke a back tooth last night, managed to get an appointment at the dentist tomorrow, had to exaggerate the pain, I am to get a temporary filling? But if I wanted to go private I was told I could get a nice white filling like you’ve had done before, said the dentist. What’s this all about, having to exaggerate just to get a temporary filling. THEY ARE ONLY DOING EMERGENCY for the time being!