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Morduant still just favourite
hv
''Because if he did, she would have no choice but to invoke the Lascelles principles which were designed to protect''
no it is you who has misunderstood.
You agreed that without support for the pm then parliament will not function. With a parliament that cannot function, there would be no invoking of the the Lascelles principle. The queen is never going to stop a GE
LTI. Think you have misunderstood.
It has been communicated to Johno that he shouldn't embarrass the Queen by calling a general election.
Because if he did, she would have no choice but to invoke the Lascelles principles which were designed to protect parliamentary democracy from unscrupulous meglomaniacs in instances just such as this where the ruling party has a large working majority.
Surely, you can understand that.
hv
but you said -''That would embarrass the Queen and cause her to invoke the Lascelles principals''
glad that you realise now that would not be the case if the PM did call a GE.
His proffered option would be to get on with the job with a fully functioning parliament
There will be no invoking the Lascelles priciples by the Queen because even Boris the thick-skinned oaf doesn't want his name to go down for generations as a complete and utter disgrace.
The signals have already been sent: Johnson won't call a General Election.
there is no fixed term parliament - the PM could call a GE
hv
''Indeed''
Indeed, which is why there will be no invoking the Lascelles principals by the queen
LTI
you cannot have a functioning parliament/government if no one is willing to take government posts and support the pm..
Indeed, that is why he has to go so a new leader can form a new government.
hv
''You can't have a general election when the government has a large working majority.''
you cannot have a functioning parliament/government if no one is willing to take government posts and support the pm..
Do some reading LTI.
That is constitutional fact and the signals will already have been sent.
You can't have a general election when the government has a large working majority.
They just need a new leader. Johnson won in one constituency only.
HV
''cause her to invoke the Lascelles principals''
pure speculative nonsense
You could be correct there Highveld, but since the fixed term Parliament has been reinstated there is some confusion if this has been revived.
Just looked it up as I was not aware of this.
Ant
''But he recruited a male sexual predator without the government’s knowledge and he knew, Boris was told about this evil predator and he recruited him.''
What a load of ballox - stick to the facts.
antony
" your son he was touching"
Your already casting him as a kiddy fiddler then, or have I missed some news?
He's not the first bloke to drink too much and stick his hand down someones trousers in a private club.
'Most political commentators would say....deserved etc etc.
This is the kind of sloppy opinionated use of language that we were punished for as undergraduates back in the day.
What most (unquantified) political commentators( who exactly (would- not have actually said is pure speculation.
D-
lti
"the rule that was followed giving the pm at least an extra year via a democratic vote is being ripped up with a new rule overriding a democratic vote and what that vote meant"
yes by the very people who criticised him changing the ministerial code for his own selfish purposes. If he goes it will just be a change of leader, the same values will remain in power.
“ The democratic vote gave him a year before he could be challenged again.”
But he recruited a male sexual predator without the government’s knowledge and he knew, Boris was told about this evil predator and he recruited him.
LTI - how would you feel if it was your son he was touching?? Honestly unbelievable
HV
Most political commentators would say that it was Boris that delivered a landslide victory for the conservative party.
lti,
You are beginning to sound like a remoaner.
LTI
Irrelevant and specious speculation.
Counter-factual history.
HV
''other MPS won in theirs.''
and who helped to win them their seats.
Do you think that someone like Dominic Grieve or Philip Hammond would have delivered such a landslide victory as the leader? - no chance
TFE-He won't call a general election. That would embarrass the Queen and cause her to invoke the Lascelles principals which he'd never be forgiven for.
If i was Boris TFE thats exactly what i would do.
They get two choices, stop moaning on and button the lips for the remainder of my protected 12 months, or i'll call a GE tomorrow and all of you backstabbing shi7s will be leaving through the exit the same as me. Your call.
That 'democratic vote' of the 1922 committee is a very limited and eccentric jurisdiction, and will be revised fairly soon if the thick-skinned charalatan isn't taken away by men in white suits fairly soon.
Boris has one ace left, all the time he is prime minister he still has the power to call a general election.
Probably the real reason that no rules were changed tonight. The 1922 committee will reconvene on Monday it must have put the fair sh*** up them if he threatened that.
Just heard Brandon Lewis has resigned, (northern Ireland secretary).