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Brixton
Both born in Manchester. They were British nationals and British citizens.
Shock horror, it's almost as if you think brown people aren't British...
My first comment of the day was literally replying to a thread TFE made asking what the point of the thread was. I didn't start the discussion on immigration or politics, so why are you picking me out?
You are welcome to disagree with any point I make, but if you have a problem with me simply making points then I can't help you. It's just more useless ad hominem personal attacks on me in lieu of an actual discussion.
Mach
Thicko
2 Libyan brothers .
mach,
It's not just this thread, your 1st post this morning was straight up political.
Sometimes fair enough, we all go off topic, but with a certain posters constant incoherent rambling and your constant political posts the board is getting less and less readable.
At the end of the day we all have opinions on certain subjects but sometimes either let it go or take it to twatter or Facebook, at least then you can tag your favourite (Boris!) into the discussion.
Bumble
Wtf honestly. It's super weird that you don't call out your little far-right buddy TFE for creating the thread, but call me out for "steering" the conversation even though I simply just replied to it.
I actually think the Rwanda approach has many merits. The accommodation looks reasonable to me and it should act as a deterrent to those hellbent on coming here. They can stay in France or wherever instead. It's nothing to do with skin colour as certain posters on here keep claiming it is. If boatloads of Albanians were doing the same, I'd feel the same way. The country cannot cope with unlimited immigration. We are struggling to house people in this country as it is.
Mach,
If all you want to do is argue about politics, immigration etc isn't there a Facebook page for that?
We all go off topic as most LBG issues have been discussed to death BUT you continually STEER the subjects down a political track.
Do you even hold Lloyds bank shares?
machismo
I will ask YOU again to tell us how immigrants we can take in, after all, we are taking thousands every week. Our population is even now made up of 20% immigrants that is 1/5th and you and others including the political parties are in a race to bring in even more. So to benefit foreigners, with have to diminish our own lives because that is what we are doing.
The population of Africa is around 800million and growing rapidly so using the percentage of immigrants in the UK as a yardstick, what would you think Africans would do if we sent the equivalent number of white or none black immigrants there, that would be around 160 million would they welcome them? Same with India's population of 1.3 billion would they accept 260 million none, Indian migrants? I think not.
If you and another certain idiot on this board were chickens you would vote for Christmas.
I will mention again the UN says 2 billion people want to move and they wish to move to and lets us be clear and honest they only aim for WHITE countries. The population of Africa is growing at an alarming rate, do feel free to check
"Until you lot can up with something tangible", there are no easy answers to immigration. It's a complex issue with complex reasons for happening. You can't just throw people on a plane to Rwanda, expect something to happen and call it a success.
The solutions to tackle immigration need to be hollistic approaches that understand the reasons for people leaving their countries. They also need to understand that criminalizing immigration has never worked, will never work, and only leads to unnecessary deaths. Ultimately you need to have a tiny bit of compassion towards these people, instead of demonizing them and treating them as criminals.
The irony is, of course, that far-right nutters don't really care about any of that, they just don't want brown people coming into a white country. None of it has anything to do with humanitarian or economic reasons.
That said, if you think immigration is a great threat, then you should consider the reasons for it and how to prevent it. But as it stands, right-wing governments never have any solutions. Much like Trump and his wall that achieved nothing, shipping people off to Rwanda will achieve nothing.
It really doesn't matter what your motivations are, humanitarian or naked r@cism, because if you are completely in denial about the aforementioned things, then you're simply not going to actually change anything regardless of your political viewpoint.
Brixton
The Manchester bombing was by a British national born and raised in Manchester.
Enjoyable session and an impromptu meal with a few muckers down the juicer and what do I read.
More of the same, attacking the UK's immigration policies but no condemnation of the Spanish actions other than just the one comment, "it's a tragedy." Yes, a man made tragedy, caused by an uncaring EU state with absolutely no answers. And you wonder why so many immigrants express unhappiness at the way they are being treated in France.
This action is akin to the royal navy sinking dinghy's mid channel, I wonder if you would call that a tragedy!
Our humanitarian approach is to rescue boats and bring them safely to the shore, not shoot them as they enter UK waters.
We currently have several schemes in place to facilitate immigrants wanting to settle here including the following -
The Mandate Resettlement Scheme
The Refugee Family Reunion
The Community Sponsorship Scheme.
The UK Resettlement Scheme.
Plus many other safe routes that are country-specific.
All we get in the way of answers is the constant criticism and judgemental rhetoric which does nothing but support the human smugglers in their illegal trade. I hope you're proud of yourselves.
Under the guise of caring individuals your mission is entirely political, you poor misguided fools, you have no answers, just name calling and ideological labeling. Just one more reason your political affiliation is in opposition. Until you lot can up with something tangible, best you keep quiet, or as Brixton said "put a sock in it" you're beginning to embarrass yourselves.
Gazzleberry,
If we are immortal then we will not take anything with us we will be going nowhere.
Guitarsolo
Trooper Rigby was butchered by two Muslim asylum seekers.
Plenty more can be cited if you wish, it is actually a long list, and will not need to include the ****** rape of young white girls, by a certain group of religious freaking immigrants.
Guit
22 kids blown up in Manchester ! One of them yours ? no , put a sock in it twat .
"We get constant condemnation from a certain section here about the folly of Brexit and the government's Rwanda policy for illegals."
And yet, I don't recall a single mention of a specific incident involing migrants. Can you cite one please? And yet, you use an example of a tradegy in Melilla to make some political point? Perhaps you feel self-conscious because the policy of the government you support is bad? As Machiismo points out, the Rwanda policy was all about the government "activating" people like TFE via the Daily Mail or Daily Express.
Likewise, Machiismo points out that it doesn't matter what part of the political spectrum you are from, almost everyone acknowledges that there is an immigration problem. The disagreement is about the response. The Tories want to become people-traffickers and send people to Rwanda for "processing", without acknowledging that they don't even have a legal way to apply for asylum in the first place (whether it is granted or not).
There are answers out there, but they are not within the spectrum of the Conservative Party or its UKIP manifesto.
At least 23 dead now and many injured. What would the outrage be if the UK did the same.
Spanish Prime Minister Pedro Sanchez has condemned what he described as a “violent assault” and an “attack on the territorial integrity” of Spain.
Can I just say it is f*cking shameful to use people dying in tragic circumstances to further an already nasty political agenda. It's quite frankly utterly dispicable and disgusting to use that tragic story as justification for anything, let alone in defense of an immigration policy that has been roundly condemned.
Every humanitarian organisation in the UK has criticised this government's Rwanda plan and it is quite clearly a cynical measure from Boris to appease his hard-right backbenchers. So for any of the migrant-hating hard-right on here to start acting as though you actually give two f*cks about migrants dying trying to reach the EU is absolutely obscene.
This is about as low as it gets...
sounds like its okay to shoot them dead but not okay to put them on a plane alive and kicking
Yes, perish the the thought TFE that a left leaning EU government could be imposing measures to stem the flow of immigrants into its country......
Are you trying to say a disaster happening on Spanish shores somehow justifies the ludicrous policy of shipping migrants to Rwanda? Or are you trying to say if someone doesn't mention every single catastrophe that happens around the world on a certain topic then that makes shipping migrants to Rwanda okay?
Or are you, as per usual, saying absolutely nothing about anything and just trying to be a contrarian fool? Anyone that thinks shipping migrants to Rwanda is a "humanitarian approach" is clearly detached from both humanity and reality.
We get constant condemnation from a certain section here about the folly of Brexit and the government's Rwanda policy for illegals.
Not one word of outrage from them about the deaths of migrants in what is after all a part of their beloved EU, in what Spain called an attack on its territory.
Doesn't it make you proud to be a citizen of the United Kingdom with its humanitarian approach to what is clearly a problem that's not confined to these shores.
"Eighteen killed in migrant assault on Spanish outpost of Melilla. Other reports put the death toll as high as nearly 50.
World | The Times" https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/scores-killed-in-migrant-assault-on-spanish-outpost-of-melilla-xqqq3mzpj
The Spanish Socialist Workers' Party is the current social-democratic political party in Spain. The PSOE describes itself as center left.
Just saying.
I'm off, down the juicer, have a nice day all.