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Is today's RNS an indicator to sell , or just day to day normal activity? Mr Grant is certainly at normal retirement age, even a bit beyond it, so I don't see much in this RNS to scare the horses. I'm not complacent and watch the news about the company closely. But very few trades today, and the share price hasn't really moved. And I hope it doesn't before my ISA B&B takes effect.
@Reebus
But now the major shareholder is "retiring" according to todays rns perhaps we are deeply in the brown stuff ?
so why, thunderbird2, not sell your shares (if you have any) and look for pastures new, rather than ****ging the company off in here. whilst recent developments are troubling i agree, i spent £7k on these shares in 2006, since when they have repaid me with dividends way over my purchase price and have provided capital growth as well, even at the current price. i'm using the opportunity, both at the end of the last tax year and the start of the new one to get my holding into my isa, with cgt being a pita. but at least i i've got a couple of dog holdings to offset the cgt.
Poor, penny pinching management and an FCA investigation are not the keys to a fundamentally sound business. Increasing costs, declining revenue, corporate clients leaving in droves and no plans for growth (and interest rates predicted to come down this year) lead me to believe this is a company in crisis with a complete lack of direction.
The published annual accounts provide a little more commentary depth to the RNS. Still remains a fundamentally sound business. Will continue to spin off cash.
@Malafuster - platforms in general are having to rethink their business models. Some 42 are being targetted by the FCA for one reason or another. Even Vanguard was double dipping by charging a fee on cash balances while not offering interest. The last RNS suggests Jarvis are changing their business model. Cost of upgrading software, as one example, may outweigh any commercial benefits. Jarvis only charged a lowly fixed fee on their SIPP. Interest on cash balances offset the administrative costs of the product.
Malafuster - I wouldn't be so sure. If they get a clean bill of health from the skilled persons report maybe it's a good time to buy. If they do not and the skilled person suggest perhaps enhancing systems & controls, the costs associated with that, FCA might insist on remedial action and possibly fines this could turn out badly.
Unless JIM are going bust, which I very much doubt, it has to be a huge bargain at current sp, doesn’t it, particularly if the dividend is maintained at anything like its current level? Views?
Good information barchild,
I've taken the DRIP for over a decade and boasted about compound investing how clever I was. Turns out I have been the DRIP .
Such a great cash cow of a company JIM was, turns out it's a three legged donkey
Thunderbird
I stand by what I posted.
I do have a sharedeal active account which is why I knew that the normal transfer fee is £18 inc vat, however, if you request Jarvis to distribute your dividends on a quarterly basis it is free, note just for dividends, not the sale proceeds of a transaction which is still £18.
All you need to do is to phone them or email ;
payments@jarvisim.co.uk
with your instructions and bank details and it will be done.
Try it, you'll save yourself some money !
Results held no great surprises. Anyone been buying the stock today?
Barchid you are completely wrong with regards to cash withdrawal fees as it depends on the account you have.
Sharedeal active charge is £18 incl vat per withdrawal NOT per 1/4!
On an X-O account its free.
Some of their older ISAs may do something different including charge a % management fee rather than a fixed price (or non at all with X-O).
The problem here is that too many clients are being charge different rates for the same or very similar service, all based around the same underlying JHC platform, as used by the likes of AJ Bell.
Seems as if Jarvis are moving away from the consumer market and focussing on the Corporate. The consumer market is going to be dominated ultimately by a handfull of suppliers. Be a pain to move my SIPP. Though have enjoyed many years of it being fee free. So can hardly complain.
Holden
Your point about retained interest is well made but there is one thing that is in Jarvis' favour & that is their treatment of customers is much better in that ALL dividends received by them on a customers portfolio can be, at the customers request, be distributed to the customer' bank a/c free of charge (their normal bank transfer fee is £18 inc vat) each quarter.
To my knowledge their competitors are not doing this (yet) and it might be a good enough action for JIM to be treated favourably by the FCA when they start fixing rules to make platforms give up this "free money".
Why on earth would II or anyone else with existing infrastructure want to buy them? They only need the client base which they could probably get anyway with an attractive offer. Interesting Grant says makes reference to interest on uninvested cash which has seen a significant upturn - well it doesn't take a genius to work out interest rates should be coming down this year which will affect the bottom line accordingly ! As for closing SIPP business - I wonder if he will try and charge the clients an exit fee as I for one will be putting in my complaint to the FCA if he does!
Also, I believe the FCA wrote to all CFO's last year wanting evidence that it was the customer and not the firm who was credited with the interest on cash deposits and not the firm?
May be someone can clarify if this applies to Jarvis being an execution-only broker?
For example, and as a very basic calculation.....
if a client had £50k cash on deposit for one month at say 5% they should be credit with approximately £208.
(£50,000 x 5% = £2,500 per annum or £208 per month).
If Jarvis has kept all of this 5% which contributes to their overall profits, is this fair? Surely, any credit interest on cash deposits, for clients, should be credited to the client...less say 0.5%/1% to Jarvis?
IF the FCA are going to force Jarvis to credit clients with their backdated credit interest, this will not be good?
Apologies if this has been discussed and answered previously - Thoughts please?
I didn’t see a follow up re the cut in dividend. Going forward, is it still at 18+%?
The results are now out and the trusted persons review which should have been handed in by 28 Feb is now delayed 2 months.
Also exiting the SIPP market which I find surprising, all in all I guess they could now be a target for II or someone similar ?
Apart from results being overdue. The review is over due. The dividend was reinstated in feb payed out a couple of days ago? With an offer to reinvest dividends . Doesn’t sound like a company in trouble it’s the markets in general that are in trouble over reacting to every tiny bit of gossip/news item or no news . I would imagine the outcome of the late review would have some bearing on an update date. As previously mentioned jobsworth stringing it out for a ridiculous length of time while god knows what skullduggery is being perpetrated all over the markets completely un hindered by anything approaching the semblance of a regulator
Thunderbird. Can you name one single financial institution that is squeaky clean? Hsba have been pinged on more than one occasion For money laundering. Let’s not even go down the road of what RBS and bank of Scotland got up to. The Halifax jeez! I can see why it’s taken the USA to ask an extradition order on Mr Lynch’s activities in Autonomy. Where were the uk regulators there? The financial regulators in this country are either blind, stupid, lazy or all three, obviously inadequately funded. I believe that nominee accounts are actually ring fenced, legally segregated from creditors in the event of bankruptcy. I have no wish to test this theory, or the one about an £85000 cash guaranteed. Can you imagine what would happen to companies holding several million in cash? It’s a typical insurance scam like the one about peace of mind. That’s about all you get till you put a claim in, then the nightmare begins! There are no people in finance you can trust, speaking as a former trustee.
The FCA are doing their job so lets not pretend that Jarvis are squeaky clean here. I would be most surprised if Jarvis haven't lost a significant number of their Model B clients (which sane brokerage company wouldnt move their business if they can't open new client accounts!) Now late in result publishing results - doesn't take a genius to work out the company is in trouble!
All points well made Oogle. Furthermore, I too would prefer to not receive interest (I do keep some cash with brokers for quick access should I want to trade). It gets taxed at your top rate but the resultant higher dealing costs are not relieved against tax. So more expense to me on a net basis, and the hassle of adding small amounts to my tax return.
So thanks for nothing Skilled Person(s) FCA and Government. It is you who are on the gravy train, not the private investment community who, I understand, are voting to leave is.
Surely in a free and supposedly advanced country a supplier and consumer should be allowed to contract as they wish, provided all is with in the law.
AND these jobsworths sit around declaring pompously that the reason for the falling interest in the UK stock markets is insufficient regulation and control. Have they never considered the effect of excessive overheads, lack of flexibility and avarice (stamp duty should be abolished as promised when the central share register was to go electronic under Thatcher).
Stuartm. Jobsworths. Why pick on Jarvis. Can’t say I have ever had interest paid on cash. That’s why I don’t leave any in the account. They have stopped trades allowed against the value of the portfolio. Again I’ m really not that stupid. Igg don’t pay interest. iWeb (sub of Lloyds) don’t pay interest. The wealth manager I had short chat with didn’t even know they owned iWeb. Barclays don’t pay interest. Pershing securities don’t pay interest. None of them ever have, even when interest rates were much higher. That’s how they achieve lower trading costs. In the old days was like selling a house through an agent with similar fees. If you had a managed account the used to call it share shuffling to make themselves a decent income, never mind if they were loosing you money every time. Never had an issue with Jarvis. Best broker by a country mile. Go chase some real crooks!
@Travelcard
With the SP down 8.3% today perhaps someone knows something ?
I suppose it depends on what the skilled persons uncover and the remedial action they suggest. There is also generally a lot of interaction with the FCA during the process. FCA tend not to respond in a timely manner which will add to the timescale.