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In-long, stay away from my lawn!! Lol.
Otherwise, great post, thank you.
Great post In-long. I could see the properties, but couldn’t work out very well, exactly how it translated into use in the products mentioned. So from the data sheet, it seems like this ingredient is far superior to the current poly acrylic dispersant in calcium carbonate (CaCO3) slurries, then it completely blows the current dispersant for titanium oxide slurries out of the water?! That graph shows a ridiculous difference. What exact uses would the latter have please?
With all these applications, there would be no way that Itaconix could manufacture all the product needed to satisfy demand themselves.
So, I wonder if we will see some licencing deals in the years ahead - that would be a massive game changer.
Wow just wow! The list of applications is even bigger than I imagined. No wonder the CEO is so excited about future growth.
Did a quick dig and I think that was the COSH sheet link you posted Thordon (Care Of Substances Hazardous) and there are not many. The data sheet ink is below. Its high in phosphorous in its concentrated form but completely environmentally friendly in its dispersed form. To explain put a pile of veg on your lawn it dies but spread it out over your lawn and its fed and flourishes it just need handling right in that concentrated form but petroleum based alternatives can not stand up in any way shape or form against it in this respect also in any quantity. The data sheet summary (and link below) looks like this, see bullets below also. Its applications are endless and it has just blew my head off as I deal with use and specify products as a civil engineer but it could be in so much stuff that you probably touch something every time you touch something with substances in it that is probably petrol based and environmentally hazardous or a drain on fossil fuel type polymer supplies that could be replaced with this or something else ITX owns. This has anti scaling properties sure but you think about scale in home goods say and think well yeh that's good, big demand but this is in or could be used in the products sited below from its data sheet and its uses are endless mind blowing and these only scratch the surface. It is relatively new technology and basically citric acid based available to all to develop but ITX are so far ahead of the game its incredible and with so many patents nailed down they have been way cute here. This is basically as I see it a plant based polymeric plasticiser, anticaking agent, that reduces the need for excessive expensive bulk fluid to keep solids fluid in transport and general use, and easy to move when you get there and need to handle the material or if it sits in bottes tins on shelves etc . Its used as a plasticiser to reduce water content to make it cheaper to transport or to tremmy/pour/lay in concrete without weakening it with excessive water content and in bentonite tunnelling drilling mud etc alluded to in some of the uses below. But unlike the other products that do a similar thing and petroleum based this is as I mentioned Itoconic (the company name) that is its a type of fructose acid based substance or fermented in vats from plant based ingredients. And if its not in it directly its been used to move it like the calcium carbonate in everyone’s plastic doors windows anything plastic and many other materials.
Its beautiful in fact................ Sorry I am an absolute civil engineering bore.....
See data sheet: https://itaconix.com/wp-content/uploads/Tech-Data-Sheet-XDP-820-v1.0.1.pdf
• Mineral processing & transport
• Personal care
• Paints, inks & coatings
• Concrete & cement
• Drilling muds
• Desired viscosity with less water
• Desired viscosity with less polymer
• Excellent for calcium car
Thanks Thordon. Probably something you already knew, but I’m slow tonight and got there in the end, ha!
Hi Grace yep you are correct
Thanks AJP, that’s is very useful. So it appears then, that itaconix xdp 820 was filed in December 2018 and granted last August?! Useful in dispersion and prevention of scaling. So, paints, acrylics? Am I barking up the wrong tree, or is this what John was hinting at?
Not sure if this helps?
Never seen this before , but have a feeling was improved for i.e paints ; conversion of high toxic waste and very stable.
As for waste conversion to neutral very expensive hence why not taken up , maybe the law will change this.
Paints on other hand is a product and cost effective
Only done 30 min research so will dig further any way below the safety sheet
Thanks AJP08, much appreciated :)
Thordon, excuse my ignorance, as I’ve only been here since last summer, but what is this please?
several months ago joined up with firstname.lastname@example.org , this list all products and ingredients.
until the patent is released than we are in the dark.
Will keep posted up update , seems closely secret which ponders why
I guess that when we know that this is just the starting point for the share price to start taking off, then it still makes perfect sense to still be buying at this level and beyond.
That’s great, thanks Parob!
In that case how about the Mr Bear new range of haircare products please?
I know the citrus beard shaper is already on the list.
Can’t wait to start looking for paints!
AJP- I sincerely hope that we are on the cusp of something big. Need to stop adding shares here soon. Just too tempting still, and the price I’m willing to pay for them keeps increasing.
Great digging Grace!
All those PL360 products contain Sodium Zinc Polyitaconate. Like you say it’s very encouraging to see brands using them in multiple products.
And yes that’s two Ecover products we’re in then. I hadn’t spotted this one before:
Will add all to the list soon. Keep searching!
How long until we can start adding paints to the list!?
I think that the major problem we have is that we may not be supplying say the product "Itaconix® TSITM 322" to SC Johnson for their dishwasher tablets, but we may as John has stated be supplying ingredients that form part of the overall dishwasher tablet as in say the Non-ionic surfactants, Enaymes or Polypeptides not sure what they all are but may use ITX ingredients as part of their structure, as was mentioned today in the podcast, we now supply ingredients in, if not all, then the majority of these types of products worldwide. That is why I think that it is almost impossible for us to be able to determine from the MSDS unless the CAS No or ITX ingredient is specifically mentioned.
Great work by all trying to decimate this information, but guess that manufacturers of the products, try and protect their formulas to keep ahead of the pack.
Sorry a bit long winded
Are we on the cusp of something really, really big here?
I wish I had found ingredients in most of the Ecover products! Unfortunately it was just the universal washing powder, that would go alongside the existing colour washing powder that is already in the list from them. What you have said makes a lot of sense, if they are essentially the same company as method, owned by SC Johnson. I didn’t check method, due to already thinking we are used in quite a few of their products already.
Another interesting one was Mr Bear Family, as one of the products that we have fairly recently been added to has been announced as a winner for the 2021 Swedish beauty awards. ITX ingredients, if I’m correct, are now in many more of their products, with those particular products doing particularly well. Their range of beard shapers were nominees for the beauty awards, so only products of theirs containing ITX ingredients were either nominated or won. All small good signs, I think.
Did you find that we have ingredients in most of the Ecover products?, think this may be the same for the Method products as well?
Both from SCJohnson, which if I remember correctly is a $10 billion a year privately owned company.
Just to add on a couple of points about our ever expanding list of products. Over the weekend, I decided to have a look at some of the companies that had already used ITX ingredients in their products. The aim was to see if they had expanded their use into other products of theirs. After the few that I listed the other day, I found quite a few more products that some of ITX’s quite large existing customers now incorporate our ingredients into. This to me shows that they are not only happy with the ingredient, but are confident enough to increase its use further within their product range. Therefore meaning not only repeated, but larger orders.
Once Parob has hopefully signed off these few, I’ll put the other links up. Quite excited about ecover, if it’s correct.
Parob/Thordon are these ok to be added to the list please?
Sorry, I put up the wrong link for the dry shampoo for dogs. This is it
Had a bit of time to do some research this morning. After looking into the PL360 pet stain and odour remover (which is already on the list), there are now numerous other products by that company that contain ITX ingredients. A few of these products are sold in Target and all have excellent reviews, being extremely popular. They are also releasing new pet products (some containing ITX ingredients) constantly (a dry shampoo for dogs being one of the very recent ones in the past few weeks, that is already getting excellent reviews), including cat odour neutralisers, shampoos etc.
In particular, the odour neutralising carpet powder is sold in multiple places across America and has 1600 Amazon reviews, also being sold in Target. https://www.pl360pet.com/product/odor-neutralizing-carpet-powder/
They’re about to launch a dry shampoo for cats soon. Whatever next, ha...