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Oldblue: Let us slowly work through your “answer” firstly your claim that Charger and WHR system are different entities. You also previously talked about different mediums air/water.
But I’ll let In-spirit themselves contradict your statement ! They say.
“The core development to date on the mCHP and Stirling Technology is the base technology that will be applied the marine, waste heat recovery and automotive sectors"
Now it is very clear, because In-spirit state it in black and white THE MCHP AND STIRLING TECHNOLOGY IS THE BASE THECHNOLOGY THAT WILL BE APPLIED TO THE MARINE, WHR AND AUTOMOTIVE SECTORS.
I think any sensible person would have no doubt in the interpretation that WHR is based upon the Stirling engine. At this point you may wish to dispute that conclusion but you would have no evidence whatsoever, from any In-spirit communication that some other ‘entity’ exists or is in development that does not use their Stirling engine.
So what Stirling engine ? Well again from the information at our disposal, In-spirit’s RNS statements from 2011 to the present; there is nothing that suggests there is anything but the 6.4 kW rated Stirling which has been in development for 10 years – supposedly and has cost investors millions.
The Stirling engine converts heat into electricity, For WHR we take a Stirling engine and throw the gas burner away and fit heat exchangers to the D13 exhaust and transfer that heat to the Stirling engine to produce ‘free’ electricity
We have all the data we need to perform a pathetically simple calculation. A 8.58 HP (6.4 kW) In-spirit Stirling engine can only improve a 375 HP D13 by 8.58/ 375 HP = 2.2 % efficiency gain. The gain is small compared to other theoretical systems i.e. the Rankine system you referenced and the In-spirit system is heavy and expensive.
There are no random numbers, there are just 2, both taken from manufacturers data. The calculation, if you can grace it with the term, is eminently sensible.
Your air/water mediums is bizarre. The only water is used to cool the cold end of the Stirling engine and thus a by-product is heating water, as used in the mCHP. Application.
The whole point of WHR is to create electricity from waste heat and thus improve the efficiency of the device which creates said waste heat.
If the Hoover and washing machine have the same motor then apart from different loads then it is very easy to compare their performance. As you say yourself IT IS THE SAME MOTOR
its like a hoover and a washing machine having the same motor and you trying to do calcs from one to the other with so mininal data that it cant be done.
if you dont understand that pls stop posting or at least take off the silly STRONG SELL as if you dont understand the units you shouldnt be giving an opioion(please note i dont give one or try to get folk to buy/sell just share data/info with REAL investors)
is that sensible enought ???but youl ignore it again as usual
THERE IS NOT ENOUGHT DATA TO DO THE CLACS YOU ARE TRYING TO DO!!!! good enought for you?
the psychiatrist...do you really want me to trawl tho hundreds off posts to find where you claimed you where one?
i have explained it many times you dont listen or take it in ill explain it simply as i can
1. the charger and the WHR are 2 sepertate entities and you cant use numbers from one to the other
2. and most funny off all we actually dont have enought data from the units to make any SENSIBLE calcualtions!!!!
so you coming up with random rubbish and trying to apply it to the other is just that .....the reason i dont try to make calcs is there isnt enought data or spec info from the unit/units to do any calcs and im sensible enought not to make or try to make calcs that cant be done
i discredit you ???you do that yourself you need no help from me and no childish antics again thats you losing the argument
good enought for you?
Oldblue: why are actually on this board, it's obvious you have no interest in sensible discussion. Your post the same thing over and over again to try and discredit me, the psychiatrist rubbish.
If you want to discredit me it's only a matter of refuting what I've said with sensible discussion or pointing out where my pathetically simple estimates are incorrect. Not much to ask of a design HVAC engineer I would have thought. Instead you indulge in childish antics, wake up sonny.
dominoes it is then
Oldblue: it seems it's only you that can find errors. Go on be devil make me look a fool !
For all your bluster and claims YOU CAN'T
Oldblue, answer the question or shut up! You are not an engineer and have no clue how the magical unicorn charger works. Hint…it doesn’t work at all.
lol you chalenge me what too dominoes? best out off 3? if you cant see whats wrong you shouldnt be posting it not upto me to tell you where its right or wrong and im far to much enjoying you not knowing that its wrong too ever tell you where the error in your calcs are
Oldblue: until you can refute what I say your postings are simply a joke.
Oldblue: you wrote " ... and if you dont understand whats wrong with the below pls pls pls stop posting this garbage"
Please explain what's wrong with my assesment !
But you won't, simply because your incapable, I challenge you !!!
as i said comical light relief
and if you dont understand whats wrong with the below pls pls pls stop posting this garbage
and this is a cut and paste off your detailed 'engineering' pls dont laught to much when reading
Oldblue: It was me that pointed out that a new interface to the Stirling would be required and would need designing from scratch and would not be easy. As usual you are answer things that don't need answering
As for adding random numbers, what on earth are you talking about. The problem is very simple and there is no odd maths involved. The Stirling produced 10.3 HP. That is 6.4 kW increased by 20%, GCSE MATHS. A D13, the lowest output being 375 HP. If I increase the D13 output using all 10.3 HP of the Stirling I get an improvement in efficiency of 2.7 %. It could not be any simpler. If I were to add the Stirling to the 1000 HP version, what improvement would I get ?. This is kids stuff.
For the size and weight and presumably the cost, the benefits to Volvo are very very small. Presumably that's why they haven't even committed to an actual test on a real D13 because they know it's waste of time. The development will be strung out as was the Charger, enticing RNSs will written but it be another waste of time and money for investors.
Oldblue: you seem determined to ignore what I write and simply make up your own story! I think I've made it clear. After demonstrating a model and running a theoretical analysis In-spirit claimed in RNS 3 Nov 2020. " , the novel three stage heat recycling process increased engine efficiency by approximately 20%, driven by waste heat from e.g. a Volvo Penta D13 series engine... "
So 20% more power from the Stirling engine when pumped full of heat from say a D13. I do not mention Chargers, I talk about Stirling engines! YOU talk about Chargers and 20% more power equals a Stirling producing 10.3 HP. To be crystal clear, In-spirit only have 1 Stirling engine design and it supposedly produces 6.4 kW, convert to HP and multiply by 20% and you arrive at 10.3 HP. That is what In-spirit states the Stirling will produce when blasted by the huge amount of waste heat from a D13, you don't have to calculate, they tell you the answer - 10.3 HP.
The Volvo WHR system is a heat collecting system that comprises, the recently coined IHA and that heats the second component, the Stirling engine.
The Charger and the Volvo WHR system ARE connected, by the common factor i.e. the Stirling engine ... Wrong again Oldblue.
ok phimx the volvo/inspirit 'tech' is a company SECRET as it has not been PATENTED yet .....it is based on the tech from the inspirit 'charger' and has been adapted to be used in the volvo/inspirit WHR system
ill tell you what shall i phone john gunn up and ask him for the 3D model or detailed blue prints for you? (noone actually uses blue prints any more just in case you think they do) lol......
and what turns the waste heat into 'free energy' is the inspirit/volvo tech quite simple really....
That's not the answer of an engineer, it's the answer of someone pretending to know but doesn't !
Oldblue: your answer, below, to my question isn't an answer it's a reply from someone that doesn't have a clue has to how the In-spirit system is SUPPOSED to work.
From a self proclaimed engineer it is simply a joke.
answer in post sat 15:56 if you even bother reading them which you dont
and again with you going to personal attacks that only means you have no reply to what i say ...which just proves my point
tho again as i have said before im the only one that replies to your nonsense (if you hadnt realised by now) and i only do so for some light comic releaf until jan-march when this pops:-)
Oldblue: your replies are pathetically childish.
Tell us what converts a Volvo D13 exhaust waste heat to energy. Is this question beyond your capabilities ?
Oldblue: there you go once again. You are totally incapable of producing anything serious. You cannot refute anything I claim.
You are one desperate investor heading for a big loss.
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ok phimx posts mostly inspirit all NEGATIVE apparently has no shares in inspirit
post from 28 sept 2020 16;46 (pls look it up its there)
Oldblue: I can make more money in a day than my wife makes in a week just talking to people like you.
now ill let you decide what he is i kinda think i know :-) the filter button is a wonderfull thing and ill keep posting this up
and if your new yes this boards a bit toxic theres been a team off shorters active for quite some time (1-2 plus years)
phimx......the.buffalo.....and thordon.....by all means read there posts but beware off what they write and you may want to filter them as they have been pointed out as activly shorting the stock.....freindly warning thats all GLA real holders
and phimx also seems to think hes a pschiatrist as well.....yup thats right.....in between him camped on this board...lol
He bought 30 Million shares in a company that does nothing but issue RNS that fail to deliver. Not once or twice but for at least 6 long years. Forever highlighting the Design for Manufacture of the Charger but never actually building anything. Raising money for certification and never completing the " discussions " with a European company that MAY carry out certification.
This is simply one big joke because they aren't going to build the latest Charger, they have said so. if the latest Charger ever actually existed a a design.
Oldblue is desperate, he floods the board with rubbish he doesn't understand . He makes derogatory remarks about my simple calculations but he can't actually refute anything. He answers with nonsensical replies and absolutely will not clarify his own garbled posts. He seems unable to write sensible English. We all make mistakes, it's too easy to err when writing directly into this little box on your phone.
Like many others trapped in AIM lifestyle shares he's in till this company folds. Anyone that makes a sensible evaluation can see the writing is on the wall in very big letters.
old blue can't even spell engineer. He still thinks Engineers drive trains! No f'ing clue!!
All he can do is post sh*te then hide.
Oldblue: As I thought you can't even make sense of your own answer. Time and time again you demonstrate you don't have a clue what is going on.
You are no engineer.