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George: I have been nice to you as I was always taught as a young child not to mock the afflicted. George it is you who is the fool, Castle made you look like a sad loser yesterday, it was pitiful and must have been very embarrassing for you. I have to admit I had a good hearty laugh at your short comings, this BB is so amusing.
Not against my friend Teddy, but I like to buy when you say going down as this SP was always opposite to your predictions in many occasions LOL. :-) So what is your next prediction?
I think the SP has gone through the dangerous zone already, nothing to worry about 80p predictions at all...
Peter, let’s wait until Friday, don’t be tempted to buy any shares until then.
Teddy a week or so back you said this share would trickle down a few % a day when the share price was in the low 90s! So we should be at 80 or lower now according to you?
You’re really good at this guessing game....lol
Fools withs agendas! Nothing more.
**sorry a buy at 1.12 euros
Deanmck: Be careful you don’t lose your credibility. You called this SP to be 130p at the end of this week and 300p by the end of Q1, 21. Making statements like this erodes your integrity. You will be like the laughing clown who writes many words but states nothing. If you had listened to me you would have not participated in the RI and saved a fortune. I will give you another nugget, if you want to buy shares in the short term wait until Friday morning.
Deano
I don't follow anyone, as you can see I've posted a sell at 1.12 euros GTC. I might be right, i might be wrong, neither matters bc of how i'm positioned,. but was just pointing out they made some valid points...your choice to accept or ignore. But i wouldn't get offended bc someone ignores my advice or differs in opinion. It's the delivery of the msg that is sometimes offensive hence I filtered out Castle & Wam, not bc of what they were saying but how they were saying it....!
and a little research into how long it would take to immunise a whole population even if the vaccine were available today will show SD measures are here for at least the next 6 months. What form that will take will depend on both politics and the R number... but don't take my word for it DYOR :-)
best of luck
Sunsurfer, if you’re listening to the likes of Teddy and SmartInvestment, your going to loose much more money.
They have proved time and time again they have no credentials or knowledge.
Time and time again I say don’t listen to anyone in relation to investing your own hard earned money, make your own decisions and stand by it. However, if that’s your thought process, to follow the guys that have called it all wrong time and time for their own benefit may I add, you’ll lose more than George.
George
I've always been a supporter of your position but of late you have sadly lost all your credibility, not bc of the size of your shareholding but bc you are not 'listening' nor taking what is very good advice from many of the BB's like Teddy, smartinvestment, IG etc.
If you 'listen' you might make much more money... just a thought!
PS filter WAM & Castle or respond to them via personal chat... bc we are all bored of this tennis match.
WAM & Castle win when you respond and loose when you ignore them! don't name call is a sign of strength not weakness - good luck
Thanks for the replies ref RR.
Good luck with IAG, I’ll be silently hoping for a steady return to £2.
See you in 6 months
Neutronic: The RR RI is not good value, read through other posts that explain how the headline price is a gimmick. Some basic research on RI will show what the BOD think RR is truly worth. Check the price action as the rumours were starting to build around the RI. The market was basically screaming give us the details or we short your company to oblivion because we have no idea how much you think it's worth. IAG didn't allow such negative sentiment to build before announcing a RI. Once the RI was announced the wood was seen from the trees and profit taking as well as a return to the nominal RI valuation took place. I predict that the share price will drop as it did for IAG as demand for shares dries up because anyone who was interested in purchasing will have taken up shares to take part in the RI.
AndItsGone: What a brilliant username.
The RR point was interesting. I remember that Friday and there was pure panic. Warren east waited to long for the RI, unlike IAG who were more proactive, and it caused a number of events that never happened here.
HFs used easts silence to walk it down 10% a day. Multiple negative news stories daily. Many LTHs were selling and then taking short positions to recoup loses, some guys where even doing that at 1.15! The price became totally detached from reality, RR is a world class engineering firm that was priced at 10% of Ocado! Total nonsense.
It created a huge snap rebound, probably aided by the underwriters trading arms piling in, coupled by a massive short squeeze on margins. And now all you read is positive RR news stories!
That will not happen here, and the price is in a relatively stable trading range unlike rolls back then
@George, I don't like WAM and Castle's post as they are not investors and having some different agenda, 90% of investors here know them very well and they don't care about their post.
Initially I thought you have IAG shares or trying to invest, but I am now doubt that as it's looks like you are helping WAM/Castles agenda to keep going or otherwise you are taking every post as personal and WAM/Castle are enjoying your post because everyone can see your replies to them are doesn't make sense.
If you are real investor then PLEASE PLEASE don't reply to WAM/Castle that's only way others can see you have a brain and matured. It's OK to post few but you are posting 100's and not learning at all. you don't need to repeat you are going to buy 3k worth shares.
Investors come in to this BB to read some news/opinions anything related to investments but not you and WAM/Castles personnel arguments, so that's feel me like you are friend of them and giving some life to them to keep going their dead agenda about rubbish 50p prediction.
If you have little brain then we can see you are going to stop replying them otherwise you are making this great BB is rubbish and showing you are brainless.
Enjoy the IAG ride.
@Neutronic. Shame to see you go, could do with more post like yours. Agree with what Teddy said about predicting RR. I think the difference between RR and here is that investors saw RR as a bust and saved by RI. It also supplies across the sector so once the money was secured, it's future also secured as there will still be an airline industry after this even if individual players go bust. IAG's rights issue wasn't so much to save the company, given its existing cash position. I also think investors are still not certain on this company's future, even with the extra cash, hence why the price hasn't shot up. But if you want an expert opinion better ask George :-)
@Neutronic: No one could have called the RR situation, no one. I watched that share bounce off 100p on that Friday afternoon and like most other thought it would have been 70p the following Wednesday. Turned out it was a 2.5 bagger, we all missed that, (Well most of us), in this business sometimes you need a good dollop of luck and strong conviction.
Before I do go, because not getting into RR is one of my biggest loses (the ones that you don’t invest!)
I am interested in why RR rose vastly on news of the RI and IAG did but not as much before retrace?
Is it because the share dilution was great value compared to IAG?
Ive got a tad more than that and scaled back to about 10k with the recent rise but I basically thought I was too small fry to even post on here. Let alone give advice to anyone... I’m also new to investing at about 3 years experience, and learning the hard way in my first year losing £5k.
I think this is why people are getting a bit annoyed with George because he’s cluttering up this board, arguing etc when he’s stated he’s a new investor, and 2. Invested a minimal amount.
I didn’t like what WAM, castle were saying, but I still took note... why wouldn’t you want differing opinions. I’d have saved myself some 30% paper loses if I had done and got a **** ton more shares for my money. Catching a knife is tricky and I was a bit too early.
I come here for links to credible info... not read a load of crap which is what this is.
Kinda puts it into perspective peoples positions on here and learn not to listen to what they are saying.
I’m here for a 1-3 year plan... anything over 20% rise per year average and I’ll be happy. If that’s in one year, great. If it takes 3 years, also great.
Think I’m done this this board now... come back in 6-12 months time and see where we are.
George, you seem like a decent hardworking young man who is rightly thinking of his future. But you have to learn when to retreat and to choose your battles, Castle and WAM are playing you. You don’t have to respond to every criticism on the IAG BB. It’s
not personal, they just want a lower entry point than you and me!
@George: I haven’t posted for a while as I was keeping my powder dry until Friday morning as I believe there will be a nasty surprise in them quarters. George you seriously need to wind it in, you come across all Gordon Gekko but in reality you are Shirley Temple. I have 5317 shares in IAG and I don’t even consider that as an investment. Less is more George.
Wow, just wow. Completely out of your depth.
Stated that you had a principle of £20k, investing £12k a year at assumed 8.5%. You got it wrong so now changing your figures. Nice one. btw 6-7% is conservative and you should really base your forecast on that figure.. 8.5% is pretty aggressive over 15 years. 10% over the last 10 year Bull run is unprecedented. 1st rule of investing...past performance is not an indicator of future performance. Seriously, good luck to you but if you're going to continually post here you should know what you're talking about.
Growth of company shares and dividend return total of 8.5% average. Some years you will have big growth, some less same for divi. 8.5% could be about right in total over 15-25 years.
Seriously, have a day off. The c£400k compounded calculation assumes you reinvest any divs. Hence why it's COMPOUNDED at 8.5%. Embarrassing yourself again.