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Right, I accept criticism that some of my posts are a bit far from the precise board topic, but at least I raise points that within the 360 that can affect airlines, indeed IAG, there is a degree of relevance and points to bear in mind.
But what is jotom going on about? I'm trying to make the link, but I can't.
PS..
It has struck me that some may rightly say, that pain, death and inconvenience was caused to other health service users by the actions taken against the covid pandemic. I would simply answer, that it's because of the actions of sequential governments in underfunding the NHS that this situation exists. The U.K has some of the cheapest relative costs of treatment in the developed world. I would propose that when the Nightingale hospitals were left empty was due to lack of staff and money to run them for any period of time. (Other reasons did exist).
"The largest Nightingale hospitals were reported to have 4,000 planned beds and would need 16,000 staff at full capacity (a higher staff complement than any hospital in England barring Barts Health NHS Trust and Guy's and St Thomas' NHS Foundation Trust). For an NHS that entered the pandemic with 100,000 vacancies this would always have been an eyebrow-raising ask – as there were few supernumerary staff who could move to support the Nightingales without their local hospitals falling over."
https://www.kingsfund.org.uk/blog/2021/04/nhs-nightingale-hospitals-worth-money
In this case at least, "You get what you pay for"...
jotom? Err?? What on earth has any of that to do with people posting their ideas of IAG prospects. Your correlation between people who doubt the prospects of IAG, or any other share, with all the ills of humanity, and of course you have to drag up Hitler for some bizarre reason, is actually deeply offensive. Some people hail the virtues of a company and sing the praises. Some identify troubles and vocalise caution. Every share can be interpreted equally according to the manner of analysis and bias of the investor. But to claim that if someone is cautious over a share, then they are by some measure an evil person out to destroy vulnerable people with a Nazi zeal is utterly preposterous.
I don't know where you copied and pasted that from, it looks like a Guardian monologue or off the BBC website, but trying to latch that condemnation on to people who may raise caution, negative opinion or counter-argument is pretty debased.
You need to examine your own conscience and make yourself a better person!
HateMM's.
It seems to me, that the "London South East" boards, (I've frequented the LLOY and IAG and NWG ones) are inundated with people pushing dissention, fear , uncertainty and doubt. (FUD). It almost drains the motive for visiting, though blocking/filtering has been a real boon to maintaining ones sanity and will to live...
Without knowing what these people's (HateMM's included) motives are, makes it difficult to justify this level of subversion but on the points raised if taken on the face of it, it would bring into question what value one places on life, especially the life of others, be they older, infirm or in any way 'different'. There is much to disagree with in what these people say, and as I've not much time, I won't go into all of it, so I will just jot down a few random thoughts, coffee in hand.
The people who some so easily discard have in the main, served our (mine anyway) nation, paying taxes, serving in various national services, bringing up families (who are the future of any community) and making the UK a generally nice place to live. Though these people dying from Covid may have had "underlying conditions" in the majority of cases these are not life threatening, and a good value of life (to me at least) could still be lived.
The ONS publications state "Deaths "due to COVID-19" include only deaths where COVID-19 was the underlying cause of death." So this means that those people would be alive if it were not for Covid19, that's enough justification to me for missing a few nights in the pub, not going to a concert or three or even loosing a few quid in employment. (The last point is based on personal circumstances, though remember the UK is a country of 'lowish' taxation, and if you don't collect it, it can't be shared out in times of need). (I do not agree with this governments handling of the pandemic, though obviously because of different reasons to some here).
In Nazi Germany people were valued at different times by their race, their profession, their health status by their "value to the Reich" and other factors. IT REALLY DOES SEEM TO ME THAT SOME HERE WOULD WISH TO RETURN TO THOSE TIMES.
Was Steven Hawking of less value because of his health status? Was (as it was judged at the time) Alan Turing deserving of his treatment at the hands of other like minded Hateful cretins, even though he had saved millions of people with his war work. (Or even if he had not).
Those who think that way should maybe move to a third world country, where for the cost of a few pounds people are left to die, their bodies ignored to decompose in the streets until swept up by the bin men. After all, this may save these Haters' them a few quid, or put no damper on their social lives. That even those impoverished countries try not to take the Haters' advice is telling in the extreme.
One simply has to ask the motives of these advocators, what drives them. It's certainly not what drives me.
Freedom of information request was submitted to the ONS..."Number of deaths FROM C19 of otherwise healthy people...NOT deaths WITH C19 or unhealthy people"
In the 2yrs it shows 17300 deaths FROM C19 with average age over 82yrs of age. Of course every death is sad...but to shut a country of 70 MILLION down because of deaths similar to flu is quite frankly a travesty and somebody needs to be held accountable. You.should NEVER subjugate a people because of fear let alone on unfounded principles.
The number of positive tests have fallen by 15.4% to 641,687 in the last seven days, according to the data.