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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10413625/British-flyers-warned-caught-5G-chaos.html
effects of 5G argument. It is a temporary hiccup, but nonetheless a real thing. I can not see any other outcome in the short term than the moratorium being extended a bit more until all systems are ticked off as safe.
"The 5G thing is a total red herring."
errr.... sorry but it is a very, very big issue that could result in thousands and thousands of flights cancelled irrespective of the airline concerned, this is like having flight worthy certificates suddenly withdrawn for over half the world fleet.
Disconcerting, but seems the sector is moving in line so it has to be tied to oil prices and general uncertainty. As other have pointed out it's a tiny pullback after a relatively sustained run.
Also waiting on big headlines - whilst we had a trickle over the weekend we didnt see big market moving headlines. Those are yet to come.
The 5G thing is a total red herring.
but..... IAGLong, what are the chances of turning £500 into £500,000 with BP? I can dream of that, you are stuck with boring 10% gains maybe!
BP on its way down Sundeneza? Think you might have ranted to soon....
"BB, you may lose it all in UKOG!!but i am making nice profits with BP, thank you very much!! LOL."
"Buy opportunity can close green"
However powerful the telecoms think they are, airlines have the trump card of safety critical operation. 5G is not essential for the safe operation of aircraft, but potentially vulnerable aircraft systems are critical.
Therefore, the 5G will not be turned on near airports until all flight systems are verified as safe. So this little dip is a most likely to be cancelled and then reversed when the FAA announces a further 5G rollout delay. Of course, you only gain if you buy and then cash in.
Jtan I see the same, agreeing on quite a bit these days. there will be more than likely dip buyers tomorrow....
BB, you may lose it all in UKOG!!but i am making nice profits with BP, thank you very much!! LOL.
If you want real casino investing, pick AIM stocks that do not have any automatic trades. The market is then set by market makers and private random investors.
But whichever type of market you play in, remember one golden law, the stock markets are very efficient machines to move money form the pockets of private investors to the bank accounts of institutional investors. It is a one way street.
The bots are tied to algorithms that are tied to each others outputs. One moves, they all move. Also, airlines is very international and so impacts on sp are reflected everywhere, the 5G issue probably draggin sector down specifically today. The bots also have rules to prevent runaway sp changes so they are regulated. The algorithms have variables that individual investment houses can 'tweak' to suit their own strategy, and decouple stocks from the market should something specific happen which should not influence another sp. It is similar with the oil price, the bots are pegged to oil price movements. Other stocks have their prime moving variables too, agriculture has weather.
Sometimes the price movement does look like direct manipulation as the whole sector rises and falls in unison, and there might be some common setting of variables in the algorithms simply because all the traders see the same news, move between institutions and take their trading pattern with them as well as being left on the bots in the previous place. Eventually you end up with a mulched mix with broadly the same investing consensus. That's why claiming booking s on IAG transatlantic flights is going to magically push the sp to 200+ is a bit of wishful thinking. To stand out you need big numbers of change and the isolated market effect doesn't last long as all the other bots catch up and absorb the new levels.
Buy opportunity can close green
Uncertainty surely
Is this not all connected to the story at the moment about 5G being rolled out at USA airports and the belief that the new system will interfere with a/c nav systems. US airlines are talking about multiple flight cancellations over coming days
Good dip to buy I'd have thought
Morning all.
As I speak/post our beloved :) IAG has opened at Minus 0.9% then within 30Mins to Minus 1.8% then in 10 more Mins to rise to Minus 1% (though it's now going back down as I type to Minus 1.8% again). There seems at the moment to be something of a pattern, jerk down or up at open and bobble about a bit after, a move around 10:00 and a drop before lunch. What happens at EOD is anybody's guess. IAG also seems tied to the American airlines pricewise at the moment, though clearly they are all very different companies.
So, do people think this is market sentiment as we come out of Covid, driven by big money with a little manipulation thrown in, just the nature of the beast or other factors?
All ideas welcome. Remember after the truth of LIBOR anything is really possible.
Good luck to all. DYOR.