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Hi all, my thoughts are the drop are the SITA data hack had a part to play. If you look at both falls, one around 2pm and then slightly later when the Government announced the need for the departure document from 4am Monday. Both negative to BA and the last one to the whole travel trade. Let’s see what next week brings but remember February was up 37%
Fund % Short Change Date Changed
Covalis Capital LLP 0.51 0.00% 3 Mar 2021
Citadel Europe LLP 0.68 -0.05% 1 Mar 2021
As ever, never wear the rose tinted glasses when getting involved with day trading. It isn't a case of 'I told you so', the present pull back isn't particularly large wrt to what was a 'spike'. Critically the question is why another institution would open a short position? They could be wrong, just speculating, but it is wise to be aware and be ready with some sort of alert system.
I have investing.com app on my phone which I can set an alarm for price thresholds - I've used a range of others in the past which either stopped giving live prices or became power hungry. I have iWeb share dealing account on the browser speed dial. I have been able to react rapidly to sell off in the Swiss mountains, Polish train stations, casinos in Vegas and even taking the sun in Phuket on the beach. For the newbies, download investing.com - it currently shows live prices - other posters may recommend alternatives. Practise logging on to your dealing account whilst in the supermarket, pull over into a parking space, on the bus, walking the dog. Practise. Some of us are lucky enough not to have to go out and do 9-5 and can be near our home computers whenever we want. But I still have the app set up in case something happens whilst I'm filling the trolley with tins of baked beans!
I do not use stops or limit orders or any of the rest. The reason is because every now and then the sp will very briefly spike up or [mainly] down by very big margins and your stop will be triggered when you really didn't want it to be. I am not aware of a trading platform which has a time variable to filter out spikes - maybe somebody knows of such a facility on another platform. The other problem I have with orders is when triggered under normal market conditions, the order is not filled at that price, it is sent off for a negotiation. Your sell (or buy) is sent to a queue. By the time your order is being processed, 10,000 sells have been processed ahead of you and each one has driven the price down further. What you end up with can be dramatically different from what you set the order target and you have no control over it. That is why I do it manually, lost 60%ish on one stop where the price movement had been a slow couple of percent decline - lesson learned. Hence the mobile set up.
Hope that helps.
It's a weird point to short.
Apologies predictive text in my last post, it should of course read short sellers!!
Totally forgot about the shorts elders, probably a combination of that with wider market fears of interest rat rises causing the sell off. I cant see these going below £2 with so much good news coming. Huge pent up demand, the world has to get moving again, countries open up again, I'm confident this will rise next week and start the journey to £2.50+.
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If you hadn't sold the first shares you would be sitting on a good profit. Maybe you could look at the long game now. Could go up Monday or down. In six months you should be happy.
Why worry about short sellers on this share. Buy on the drop & as long as you can wait you will see a profit & they will see another loss as they have on so many other shares. Flights will be back on sooner than the government forecast the way cases & deaths are falling. Then the travel will go mad & this share will fly. " excuse the pun " :-)
Teddy100 not sure I agree with you entirely on price but I think your right it should bounce back. Agree with what others were saying quite a few of the airlines and travel stocks took a hit where I'm mostly invested but I remain confident for a resumption of recovery next week. As long as continued vaccine role out, schools reopen successfully and no surprise news to come left field, expect a good pick up on Mon or Tue next week. The trick is not to panic, we are in a very different place to a year ago, there is a way out countries are starting to state we can fly to them in the summer such as Spain and Cyprus in recent days, I'm sure others will join the list soon. IAG remains a longterm hold for me. GL All investors!!
Hi guys ... this just happened out of nowhere today ... I bought some at 218 and got tempted this afternoon thinking that the falls had steadied and bought more at 210 ... this is after losses Pre xmas when they tumbled as bought at 177 and when dropped to 139, sold at 150 to cut my losses. I’m new to all this so not so experienced and savvy as some of you guys. Let’s hope for a great week next week. GLA
Canary78 - Hey mate! Good to see ya! Personally, I think where there is quality and good fundamentals, it can only go up. Lots of traders made some money this week and banked their profits - but it's only around 10%. Ok, better than the building society, but my target here is around 320p. So I'm not bothering with trading here. I'll ride out the dips. With the summer rolling on, vaccine passports, pent up demand etc, everything around IAG can only get better. GLA!
arms999: I was down almost a year, started buying when it first dropped, then it was a letter of sinking everything I have to get the average down.
Now, a year later, when all this stress and patience was supposed to pay off, I sold it right before it went up.
I still can't believe it.
Now I can only hope, it will go up.
Canary I have done exactly the same, I was down with iag for 6 months when it hit 170 I sold now I’m back in at 220p
@Alex: It was more of a 5% drop but enough to spook the markets, further to that Tesla was in a 10% free fall just before the close and the markets are spooked about potential interest rates. There is no doubt about it those tech stocks are over valued and unfortunately the FTSE will get caught in the head-wind. This share is only going one way and I am expecting the share to get back in 220p territory next week. IMO
I had a chain of very bad decisions in the past two weeks.
Sold IAG at 170, as not expecting this rise based on summer dreams hype.
Invested in ridicules stocks with a loss.
Didn't think this will go up so high.
Now I'm back in at 203.
If you look at IAG shares in Nov/Dec last year, this behaviour is almost identical. If it follows the same pattern, it should bounce back.
Of course all depends on news...
If the summer hype and good news will not continue, it could eventually drop to 185 and then who knows.
I'm struggling to see a reason to go above 220 in today's situation. We need to start seeing some evidence of airlines picking up traffic and restrictions subsiding.
As you remember BA was planning to get the fleet ready for Christmas and January but after vaccine announcement hike, shares still dropped significantly in mid December, can't remember if there was a reason for it.
So, I'm a bit nervous with my investment at 203, I definitely see the long term potential but could we see more significant drops in the next weeks?
What do you think?
Nasdaqshares dropped more than 10 percent and caused footsie to drop; after footsie closed now nasdaq shares are in positive 5 percent;
Monday opening will be %10 percent plus; 123p probably. This stock will rocket to £3 in 3 months maximum!
Lots of stocks down today mostly in travel and tourism sectors. I'm holding firm, they will bounce back. We're getting nearer to things opening up and travel recommending so we will bounce back no worries. You only lose when you sell at a loss. GL All!!
Unfortunately another side effect of the GME saga is many 'normies' lose a ton of money buying near the top. It's toxic to the market. No more GME pump n dumps
Not sure why this fell off rails. How long did it take to get above 1.15 and how quickly did the hedge fund fkers and institutions take to kick the share back. Finished under 1.04 adter hours. What the fk. Again they manipulate the share price and believe its OK but as soon as they get kicked they shout foul. Just hope another gamestop comes around soon to lose them billions again on stocks they are short selling hoping for shares to fall.