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Staying up past midnight to get a last minute rant in Pingu?
You need to re-evaluate your life mate.
Fact is you said dilution is done, so clearly you have no idea what the company needs to progress.
The Mint dilution might be done, but if that's what you'd meant you should have said so.
You either don't know what you're talking about, or more likely, were trying to deliberately mislead people on here.
If you want to do a diagram knock yourself out, I don't need it, but then again, you already have the crayons, and I imagine you'd enjoy it.
Then again maybe you'd enjoy drawing a picture of an absolute clown. Your posting history certainly paints that picture.
Don't eat the crayons though buddy.
No more immediate dilution; Hope not shares in issue have nearly doubled since January; Anyone would think this IS AIM CASINO COMPANY :And Lth are seriously dilured;Hope YAZZ will be correct
No more CLNs Bo. No more immediate dilution. You’re an idiot. I can’t believe I have to keep re iterating simple facts and views that you can’t conceive as a given.
There could be dilution down the line but the sneaky MONT dilution is done. Do you want me to do a diagram with crayons?
Your imbecilic deliberate misunderstanding are tedious.
So many are ‘a given’. You need things explaining in pre school language. No one has time for that.
Some times I assume more of the audience than you’re clearly able to give.
I think the tension and pressure of the last few months have left everyone a little on edge Bo, I dont think you 2 are ever going to be mates, your taking a very exact view of the situation, and technically your right there will probably be dilution in the future, but its unlikely to be anything serious or damaging.
Pingu is talking about the Mint situation, there have been several posts by people who seem to be under the impression that mint have 100's of millions of shares and are still going to convert and change the nominal price to convert them lower. Thats just false, Mint are gone and there will be no immediate further dilution and certainly no new shares created by CLN conversions. Somehow you both seem to be going off on a somewhat irrelevant tangent, its late, its a new day tomorrow and we can talk about mice, or the weather or something that does not involve Mint, I think everyone is about ready to move on from this.
I do enjoy your posts though. Your mundane efforts at ridicule are made more gratifying by your avoidance of facts about HEMO. You make sure you never mention product plans apart from referring to phase 2 constantly which is a little embarrassing. But, don’t let that stunt your excuberance. I’m sure you’ll put me wrong about something one day.
Bo, you literally have no idea about HEMOs plans and their timelines.
This is not an insult. It’s a fact.
Take exception to whichever bit suits your misguided view.
You seem to have misunderstood JHFH, I haven't indicated this is a bad investment. Just took exception to a clown saying that the dilution is done...
Bo you are right there will be more dilution. There are warrants to be executed at some point in the future and I strongly suspect that there will be an equity investment as part of future licencing deals. But the warrants are at much higher prices than this and by the time we are talking licencing deals the MCap will likely be significantly higher. Dilution is not always a bad thing, it just has to add value. Because of Mint the dilution to raise just over £10 million capital was staggering, far greater than necessary, but to indicate this is a bad investment just because in 12 months time they may need to raise further capital to progress from Phase 1/2a into Phase 2 trials is very misleading. As a clinical pharma Hemo would attract a much higher MCap and be attractive to many more funds.
But thats just my opinion, your welcome to yours, you are certainly not alone and many investors AND funds just will not invest in pre-clinical pharma precisely because they are higher risk.
You need to understand that insults don't replace coherent argument, classic Pingu...
I’d probably just start with ‘proof of concept’
And ‘the significance of a successful IND application’
And just as a reminder Bo
SAFE HEMO CAR T is our prime candidate
CDX is the candidate Eli Lilly want at prof concept or sooner
CBR is the next gen disease X discover platform careering towards stardom
HUPECH is Vlads baby and has been in the back seat due to the expense of R&D
The ApbHC mice are at the front edge of product discovery and development and can be sold for millions (another partnership with Eli)
And lupus, an incurable disease, is where HEMO is at the complete forefront dragon both J&J and Eli into producing a valid candidate.
You need to look up ‘proof of concept’ for clinical drugs in terms of timing and you also need to research the material impact a preclinical development tool such as ApbHC will have on clinical results due to the time extension it provides to pre clinical results and therefore their validity in predicting future performance.
CJ, I can’t even get past drip. Sad but true.
HEMO will roar back. Settle back and let it all come to pass.
(Sensible timescales considered). Six months not 6 days.
Two trials
Bo. You’re the most ill informed poster I have ever seen on a HEMO board and that’s saying something. You have zero idea about anything HEMO does.
Time for a rest mate.
Phase 2 trials. Chortle. What about phase 1/2a trials?
What’s the difference? When does proof of concept arrive? Can you do trials at once? Science? My brain hurts!
"New investors are Lucky Lucky people"
Wow. So lucky you said it twice.
You seem to be taking phase 2 trials for granted. How are new investors lucky if the one candidate we have money to put through a phase 2 trial is ineffective? It's almost like you're guaranteeing success....did lunus tell you?
At that point we'd have to raise more funds for the other candidates, which would mean more dilution...
Seriously Vlad is the top man for the job. No one better.
Co Founder, CEO, CFO, Head of Marketing and Comms and General All Round Good Egg!
Soon to be embroidered on next batch of income tax rebate HEMO leisure wear! Look forward to the salary adjustment in 2021/22 accounts.
How do you know the dilution is done? Might well be more dilution yet, you've no idea if they will try for more funding.
Can't really blame people for discussing the SP as it directly affects the value of their holdings. Better to have a free board where people can discuss what they want.
And as painful as it is can people stop talking share prices and actual market cap with short and longer term targets.
The dilution is done. The company market cap is the true indicator of value. The share price is led completely by the market cap.
Maybe the SP will go up now George unlike with MINT. Maybe HEMO has news they’ll happily release now. We’re due progress updates on so many fronts it’s ridiculous.
Remains the most undervalued junior pharma (soon to be clinical) on the market.
Lots of dilution yes. Shareholders like me are readily and understandably ****ed off. But the potential growth from here is significant.
LTH have to stay patient and bite the bullet hopefully with realistic timescales of investment. New investors are lucky lucky people.
What are you smoking? Mint are gone, the shares are all distributed. The CLNs are gone, the loan cancelled.
I hope not because it's not there yet with 433m more shares to come and almost 1bn in issue by next month. So much for Mint not taking more than 29.9%, that's about 44%. Companies with CLNs are not worth being invested in. Tradable yes, investable no.
I anticipate another RNS in the next 30 days that they will be going to the LSE to apply to change the nominal value to something lower. Any guesses what that will be? Some possible values 0.5p, 0.25p or 0.1p. The lower it is the more indicates that they see a lot more dilution to raise cash before having a monetisable product.....if nobody buys the company in the mean time.
On that note when it reaches close to the next bottom, once all those extra shares are let loose and being disposed of, perhaps one of the partners will see value in the IP of HEMO with respect to the mcap and there may be a bid. Maybe one of them is already chatting to Mint about taking the block of 433m and then making a bid for the rest, then they would already own 44% and would only need another 6ish% to gain control. When the sp is close to 1p how many would sell up if an offer of 3 to 5p came in for their shares to cut losses. So it might be worth a punt at just above 1p for anyone else watching from the side-lines. I think I'll pass.