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relax guys. Has something happened? No. We are drilling and in a few days we might get the first gas shows in the mud. Sure, this may not happen but there's no reason why we should get spooked by a 5% SP retrace. It's normal for many to enter a share well ahead of the spud and sell after the rise but before reaching TD. Normal risk management.
I bought at 8p and I am sitting tight.
GLA
Trek,
What they call "create liquidity" is also called "permission rip retail investors off".
In my books, regardless of what you referend to T&C's, "creating liquidity" is a polite word for "day light robbery" of retail investors.
So, if I am to gullibly believe that because I have more cash than Joe Retail Investor Bloggs and I want to create liquidity, I can dump £1 million of my cash into a share to create a few upward ticks and attract some RI and then, when they all flock to the stock and feed the frenzie I created and I then dump all my shares and get out with their money is what the T&Cs call "creating liquidity", the world is upside down!
2 here
I never trust Motely Fool. They seem to have a scatter gun approach, pump and dump in the hope of one of their so called tips becomes successful. No doubt they will also revisit all the successful cases and shout about the potential gains you could've had if you'd listened to them.
Stockopedia on the other hand are a professional service and stick with their recommendations and hold their hand up when they get it wrong, whether the stock goes up or down.
Avoid Motley Fool!
Oh Wynnie, I apologize. I forgot you were there.
Cramer's video yes, but not JJ's video. That's a year old and shows the Rules are there to be broken by the MMS; but if one prefers to wear the bandana covering one's eyes instead of one's head, be my guest.
Just in relation to the 'Motley Fool' they published an article on 31/5 tipping HE1 as one of three shares to buy in June so I'd take anything they say today with a huge dose of salt! It's their MO to cover all bases with different journalists on different days. Meaningless generally. I'll take my chances with a potential 5X thanks!
I am (admittedly taking a wild guess) that a 15 year old video has been produced from the American market and ignores all the current regulation that has been implemented to reduce such manipulation since? (Apologies if not...….)
I think the seller has moved the price down now to between 20p-20.5p as buyers were getting wary of buying at 21p plus all the way up to 22p and then seeing it constantly fall back.
I am beginning to think old age will get me before the seller finishes off loading..... :0))
SFG,
Some people may not be aware when they jump in on a stock because the TA looks amazing, but have done little work to understand what they are buying. The work many have done here to understand the business, and thanks God we have the internet and see what we are buying into. See the faces of the guys drilling and check the reputation of the drilling team and read about the local government support! These things you cannot figure out from the chart.
Anyway, I don't want to show anyone here how to suck eggs regarding the risks we face when the MMs want to manipulate the markets on penny shares, but there is this series on youtube it is worth watching for anyone who have some spare time and is curious; it is called Confessions of a Market Maker:
https://youtu.be/NTdgSUqUBWA
Enjoy
ST
ST,
“So, the gullible still believe the MMs don't manipulate the markets to generate liquidity and mop some share for the retail investors? ”
You don’t need to check out YouTube. Read the T&C’s of the LSE and the MM role. Their JD is to create a market and part of that is to legitimately publish schemes. It’s not manipulation it’s absolute called ‘creating liquidity’.
MM schemes are often ALGO driven, especially if there are just a few MM’s holding a book and usually in low volumes to create liquidity but they have to follow the MiFid rules and post a scheme. But that is not the case here with often 6 books and reasonable volume, atm.
Definition: market making incentive schemes that the Exchange is mandated to offer under Article 48(2)(b) of MiFID and Article 1 of Commission Delegated Regulation (EU) 2017/578
Page 58 covers it and also ALGO trades. You can be sure the MM knows all the rules! It’s pretty well regulated now but as always rules are open to interpretation and there’s a huge amount of stocks and trades.
https://docs.londonstockexchange.com/sites/default/files/documents/rules-lse.pdf
Hope that helps.
Trek
£5
Lol! Yes the fool article typically ****s stocks off that have had a good run as they lag the news and they can’t understand how things can be valued outside of P&L or EBITDA!
I note a few buyers have grabbed a sub 20p bargain off the back of it! Good work!
The Fool has a following, it has its place but it’s not always right. In fact we don’t know who’s right here yet. The drill will decide. But I reckon DM has stacked the odds in investors favour we’ll above the market attributed CoS!
Those taking a chance and buying now will if successful reap the highest rewards. 5x he reckons. I reckon more, not right away but more than 5x and eventually…..
Trek
£5
@Trek
I was thinking that you'd changed your tune on HE after I first read our post. However, after reading it again I can see that you are taking the pee of of it. Good job I never posted a grumpy reply back to you too quick lol.
@ST
Agree 100%. I have no concerns about these price drop during the drill phase. All that matter is the results - if you are concerned then you shouldn't be investing here. The analysis done by Dai2belts, deepbluediver, Seismicprocessor and others shows what the potential is here. Ignore the MM's trying to scare some people - within a few weeks this will all be known and these minor daily fluctuations will be irrelevant.
In the words of the MMs themselves..."all it takes is one to chicken out and the rest will follow". Hold the line if you trust the drill bit!
So, the gullible still believe the MMs don't manipulate the markets to generate liquidity and mop some share for the retail investors? Watch this video then:
https://youtu.be/c4GaJKprGEs
Trek
When I first read your post I believed them to be your thoughts and not those of the "Motley Fools".
It's what has probably caused the drop :)
"I'm totally numb to it emotionally..."
Noob, if you know the reasons why you invested in it it is easier to be numb to fluctuations and to give a rat's behind to all the rest. Bring on the drill results, we say!!
Trek
It’s so comfortable sitting on the sidelines when you’re
not invested in the ‘given’.
I go with DM every time, he’s no fool;
five years on his driven quest for helium,
found it, put everything in place, just
waiting to reap the rewards. DM’s
award will focus not on monies,
but on his beliefs coming to fruition.
Just a guess but I am wondering if this fall which is a bit perverse given every day gets closer to a result, means that the background seller is determined to be out by drill results... And as a result has now instructed the broker to start dumping on the market as much and as quickly as possible given they still have stock left?
Might be Tree shake but doesn't feel or look like it, imo
If it is the above maybe at last, the overhang will be cleared but in any event I am frankly surprised it has taken so long to get rid of the stock order.
Oh well as always, time reveals all.
PS: how do you all feel now that wanted the lower SP?
Noob67
Drop the dogs and hog some more shares here:)
This baby is still rocking the cradle for me.
ST
Nice to see you, see you nice.
Take care and enjoy the ride.
No way is a successful drill priced in.... or even partly priced in IMHO
Info....
Helium One shares have four-bagged since December. This has given the group a market cap of £129m, even though it has no revenue, limited funding, and no proven resources.
I think this is an interesting situation with real potential. But I think that the Helium One share price may already be pricing in a successful drilling campaign.
Markets tend to look forward and value shares on what’s known. Right now, the information we have about HE1 and Rukwa is pretty positive. But if early drilling results are mixed and investors turn cautious, the stock could fall quite sharply.
Without specialist knowledge about HE1’s assets and about the helium market, I don’t feel confident buying this stock after such a strong run. I think the share price is probably high enough today. I’ll be staying on the sidelines for now.
The post Should I buy Helium One shares as drilling starts? appeared first on The Motley Fool UK.
https://uk.finance.yahoo.com/news/buy-helium-one-shares-drilling-075324175.html
They’re so clever where were they at 7p! Or ARB at 4p lol!
In DM we trust not the fool!
DYOR
Trek
£5
Would anyone really happy to see the drilling done be selling today? No, I gather.
Who would be selling today, then? Maybe some market manipulation going on? Maybe a "friend's" helping alleviating you from the burden of your shares?
https://youtu.be/W90V_DyPJTs
ATB
Aye, funny old week this one. All price trends and patterns have been battered, it's basically a free for all now.
I'd say this week is a week for deciding whether you believe in the company's mission, or not.
Outside of the market action however I'm super positive and looking forward to helium shows in the coming days :)
Seems a big drop first thing….. just because of the warrants ? Here’s hoping the muds’a’bubblin soon and any news sees us move in a positive direction… enjoy the sunshine all UK based holders. GLA