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SHORTER, SHORTER,SHORTER
Ignore Him. ******. LOL
Hello so full of sh@t . Shorter big time or not a clue. LOL.
Well GFD hopefully we will all be soaring again soon!
A limo? Are you a flightless duck GFD?
Small but welcome rise today 3%...... a few more of these and I’ll feel a lot more confident. It’s ridiculously cheap imho
As you say GFD, it will be interesting to see what the BOD have to say at the AGM. Hopefully something positive!
I very rarely post on here but felt compelled to do so due to my concern about the continuing fall in the SP. I am an amateur investor and have a GMS holding in my SIPP. Have held for a while now in the hope that something positive might happen but the graph doesn't look good. Would be a shame to sell as I do see the potential for an upside. Would be nice if the company were to provide some kind of reassurance to investors by giving us an update on the discussions with the banking syndicate.
I can imagine as you said there are a few with the cure for constipation and the 18pps SEAFOX were offering could be restarted or they may aim for a much larger stake? Takeover would have to be 75% to take private but that would only require around 50 million at 18pps?. The CFO not turning up looks to be a surprise? which is why I am posting here, As I mentioned in an earlier post the oil price seems to have an effect on the SP with a delay of anywhere up to 8 months. Not withstanding other factors.
Sorry, hit the keys at the wrong moment. The debt has stabilised and is not spiralling out of control. The break even point for profit seems to be around 135 million turnover IMHO. At 123 million and savings in the pipeline plus a 7% loans to be re-negotiated there may be a silver lining to the cloud. The day rates are the key to revenue increases, these effect both SEAFOX and GMS.
Its nice to read the other posts and its a surprise to see so much support, there is still a small window with increased utilisation on small vessel IIRC.
Lets hope the transport of barges doesn't effect profits in the same way it did in '18 as in'17.
I am not going to post too often as its a bit of a hiding to nothing, you might well find the oil price has a knock on effect with a delay. 6 to 8 months even IMHO. As GFD NED and others and others have rightly pointed out, SEAFOX has sold 51% of a similar large barge and (not sure where this money is used or went or was added) but decided to buy into a piece of GMS. As they both operate jack-ups (and the poor day rate is upon us) there is a limited industry and supply of vessels. This is in over supply (with lower workload hence the poor day rate) and this will only increase for both companied when the day rates return to a higher value. The debt has stabilised to and
I see the price of oil is helping us not!
These little uncross trades that bring the price up to 13 at the end of the day are a little wierd. Not unwelcome though... Anyone know why they're happening, along with the double price monitoring?
Well said GFD; Seafox presents itself as a success story in the niche market of Jack-Ups and subsequently bought 14% at 18pps on the back of that experience and additional knowledge gained from GMS's earlier approach. If they see great value at 18pps then the current share price is bargain basement!
If I were you I would check this out.
It will show you the debts are not spiralling up all out of control, the loss is reducing and the income is slowly returning to an industry wide LOW PAYING PERIOD! Try and read past just debt to see the bigger picture.
https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=37&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwjbmZaixtfhAhVNKuwKHdeWBcQ4HhAWMAZ6BAgIEAE&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.reuters.com%2Ffinance%2Fstocks%2FGMS.L%2Fkey-developments&usg=AOvVaw3Zk7UG9JzuuYpvFpwVsfH9
B in Black.
IIRC there is a shareholder meeting sometime in late May? 23rd or something.
Maybe there will be news before then or at that meeting? IDOK If that's a date they are aiming for? or if it will be sorted when the best deals can be agreed upon?
These might interest you.
https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=28&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwjM1_PWwNfhAhUnMewKHcRiAps4FBAWMAd6BAgJEAE&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.marketscreener.com%2FGULF-MARINE-SERVICES-PLC-16023308%2Ffinancials%2F&usg=AOvVaw1RI0f1vJlsPkyXMWAfPnnK
http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=11&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwiokKLTxdfhAhXD-aQKHfDaCKc4ChAWMAB6BAgBEAE&url=http%3A%2F%2Ffinance.digitallook.com%2Fcgi-bin%2Fdlmedia%2Fsecurity.cgi%3Fcsi%3D27033106%26username%3D%26ac%3D&usg=AOvVaw2axRUtWlly7hC54m3x7NwA
https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=14&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwiokKLTxdfhAhXD-aQKHfDaCKc4ChAWMAN6BAgDEAE&url=https%3A%2F%2Fsimplywall.st%2Fstocks%2Fgb%2Fenergy%2Flse-gms%2Fgulf-marine-services-shares%2Fnews%2Fone-thing-to-remember-about-the-gulf-marine-services-plc-longms-share-price%2F&usg=AOvVaw1IqHo8cGzEyylLDS7mMqxx
should read
I was just logged in to check US markets really.
Nothing has changed to alter my opinion (other than new appointees to the board have either got no money or should have bought some shares on such a low!) suffice to say that the SP is being held back by the events earlier this year, that stigmatism is still there IHMO.
there was an extra should! read it and it looked like I was saying something else!
Only buys today. That's fine by me...
Thank you Pbody ....
Up early, have to pick up the Master Cutler from Derby.
SP and trades.
Look at right hand side of the trades to see either an A or an O for Automatic or Ordinary.
Its the Automated asks that are NOT their causing the problem. The automatic ask will drive the SP upward.
There are automated bids (causing a drop) but no ask (so no rise).
Hope that helps NED.
If you think GMS is odd with the SP. look at XAR on Friday/Monday.
loads of large sells Friday.....SP goes UP! ???? you tell me!
busy day!
https://www.share.com/investments/shares/21613/gulf-marine-services-share-price#brokerviews
THIS ONE HAS TARGET OF 33PPS
https://www.marketbeat.com/stocks/LON/GMS/
Indeed so, I dont think the days of the investor are over, far from it.
GMS made a 5 million loss, its looking at 6 million in savings and efficiencies.
The day rates are down because of the industry peers being underutilised, the small vessel segment has some slack to take up within GMS. The future should be bright.
The loss being so small I think we are right to be harder than we would like to be to get that figure into profit.
The loans are at 7% iirc
Work being spread out means increased transport costs. GMS pays this and then has to collect it from it service users. That was 3.5 million in interest alone. Then there was the fact there were late payers! That was another 5 mllion iirc.
The exchange rates took another 2 or 3 million off the European contracts.
The total loan interest costs are 28 million.
I think its important to realise 0% interest can save 32 million per year.
Increased day rates would probably add between 60 to 100 million on past figures.
Savings and efficiencies are important, one of the harsh comments made to me by someone who worked offshore was the food costs being the first normally to be cut. Sounds dreadful, but resupply schedules' for fresh food are the first sensible saving. Lets hope there is someone there with a bread maker, but its tinned food usually. It doesn't effect safety, Ship maintenance is too important to be cut as well, along with looking for work.
My point is with a 5 million loss you sometimes do have to be hard across the whole firm (be it management pay or working operations) to get that back to a profit. That's not because I want dividends, Its because sometimes if there is a loss that's less than 5% of turnover emergency cost cutting measures for a couple of years to get into profit are better in my opinion than selling a vessel. Lost revenue will never return if there isn't a vessel there!
I try to see GMS 3 years from now with improving day rates...perhaps foolish and long term.
Anyway, only an opinion, for a while there is likely to be no news expected, I will watch and wait.
typo sorry.
Should read.
In hindsight selling a month ago and buying now would have been a good move. Problem is when this does go up not being onboard is the problem. Management "buy ins" and positives all to look forward too.