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Well, this is all very civil for a SpyMaster thread! - a good read also.
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Thank you
Agreed. The only experiments where are being subjected too are coming from the East.
Is not 'was'.
A shame as aside from the nuttier stuff this was a really interesting and useful thread.
Anyone who says we are subject to "a global thought experiment" is clearly a few screws loose. Filtered. I simply cannot trust your opinion on anything else I'm afraid.
Hydrogen will be the solution once they have worked out how to produce it at commercial quantities at local refilling centres.
I have been driven in the new Toyota Mirai a few times, and its great... But they are really just demo models, unless you live close to one of the (if memory serves me right) 10 stations in the UK..
I managed to see that (Planet of the Humans) on Amazon Prime. Very informative.
We are currently going through thought control globally with highly educated, qualified people being gagged because they have a different viewpoint to some elites who want to control the world.
I have had an i3 120A BMW for the last year, fully Electric.
It is way better than I could have imagined, in the Winter the range is about 150, in the summer 220 odd.. I lease mine from a Co called Evezy, and its stupidly cheap to run.
I pay £400pm, and that includes 12K MPA, Tax, Insurance, and a free charging card for the Polar Plus Network.
I live in Westminster, and get free Residents parking as it is fully EV.
Charging would be the only factor that determines anyone's decision on whether to get an EV.. IF you can charge at Home, or at Work, or there are plentiful chargers close to Home, then you will forget after a week that you are in an EV.. it's just a quicker, quieter car. there are many choice options, Tesla having as PG mentioned plenty of fit and finish issues, but they have the fastest and most plentiful chargers.
From the research that I did it seems the Environmental arguments are all total BS, as the real costs of production of the Batteries, and the cost of disposal, combined with the Fossil Fuel's used to generate Electricity, mean that you have to do an estimated 350K Miles before they become genuinely less polluting than the equivalent conventional car.
For city use, they are a godsend, as zero emissions, makes the local pollution levels far less toxic. It is noticeable in Central London.
For me, I have probably halved my motoring costs per year.
I think the whole renewable industry is a big hoax...biomass being one of the biggest tragedies. I also saw a documentary about a solar farm built in the middle of the desert in US, and then getting totally covered in sand!
I have a tesla model s, 230miles on a charge in real life (quotes something like 350 but never happens)
I find 230 is ok thi for commuting it gets charged once a week and it gets us to our holiday home on one charge then gets plugged in when there.
Great car, exceptionally fast, Fuel cost is significantly reduced, the driver aids are fantastic it has the autopilot etc makes driving so easy, will be swapping to a model x soon and getting rid of the range rover
Hydrogen is the future - which is why ITM Power has been on a tear over last year.
I went into a Tesla shop in Washington in 2018. Model 3 was on display - blown away by it - glad I was not in UK or I would have bought one. I like Elon musk. Was going to buy Tesla shares years ago - wish I had.
I also think we will eventually end up with hydrogen fuel cells. Heavy vehicles are not going to have what they need on batteries. Trucks/buses will need hydrogen. If we have it for them, it will go in cars.
I have a diesel car. Currently doing 2 months to the gallon.
I found EVs totally impractical. I trialled one for 6 weeks and thought - Never.
Spent 2-4 hours charging daily - range was only 120-140 miles on full charge.
Ran out of juice once in the middle of a busy road in freezing weather in the middle of the night - had to wait 2 hours to be hauled to a charging point. Another 2 hours sitting there till charged.
Once had to get somewhere urgently, but car had run out of juice - had to get a cab!
Cost of charging was around £6 per 30 minutes. So spent £24-£30 to charge fully. Total waste of time and money.
Best to wait for hydrogen - that will be the real alternative. In the meantime self charging hybrids are best.
You have to wonder why i-pace are already floating around used and 50k is a big loss in less than around a year. Maybe they have issues after the H280 updates.
Best EV out there - Jaguar IPace - untouchable.
https://www.jaguar.co.uk/jaguar-range/i-pace/index.html
https://www.topgear.com/car-reviews/jaguar/i-pace
Second hand ones on the market as we speak, for just £50k.
Hybrids are dead in the water as of 2032. Same as all ICE's.
The juggling act revolves around when to buy an EV and how long to keep it before the real star of the show takes over - Hydrogen fuel cell vehicles.
I have had the Outlander Phev for over a year, I have a short commute to the train station under normal conditions & the local town is around 20K away, In the summer, there and back can be done on the battery, so I get long enough between fill ups, that I forget which side the petrol filler cap is on.
Petrol engine for when your on the motorway, albeit a thirsty one. Charging station on the house, govt pay for most of it over here.
Might be nyland not byland
Look for bjorn Byland. Tests in all weather, day and night. Different tyres, charging stations, speeds, almost every EV made. Gives really good reviews, consumptions, range, cold charging. Well worth a check out
So here I am stretched out on the sofa with a laptop, watching Apollo 13 on the TV (cracking film), discussing battery powered cars with people I've never met while all looking for gold on the other side of the planet with the use of satellite photography in enough detail to identify a small drilling rig. Wow, I mean WOW. Technology has moved on so much in my short 60 years (so far).
Spy - go for the EV, play with it, have fun with it. You'll change in a few years for something much better as technology moves on.
Tom Hanks just had a line about getting a computer small enough to fit in a room and I have more computing power here on my lap than the Apollo team could only dream of.
I know later on in the film they will be trying to work out how to restart the computer (without which they will all die) with only a handful of battery power amps. We have just been talking about 300 mile range for an EV and my watch has more computing power than they had on Apollo 13.
All this within one lifetime. Isn't life fun guys!
Which modern day diesel (comfortable for 6"4) does 70+ to the gallon ? Please.
Well all I can say Spymaster is I'm more than happy with the fuel consumption,I do my own servicing and parts for my Audi A4 avant are not much more expensive than most other cars. I don't pay for parking, no green zones or red routes whatever they are and £35 per year car tax, so what's not to like.
That's why I'm looking at an EV for normal use, and just hire something for longer trips. Likely cheaper overall and you leave the hire company with all the problems. EVs are fairly easy to maintain and service.
Omg
How can we justify buying a taycan turbo... With no turbo... Lol
Do you watch bjorn on YouTube.. He tests all of them in Norway.
Diesel may be good on distance but weigh up, fuel, parts service, tax, parking, green zones, red routes, never being able to resell a diesel, or very low return. Not needing to drive 100 miles a day either (98% of the time)