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LA- thanks. Looks like they’ve been at it a while then, makes more sense as declaring a new short now seems nuts with the news flow incoming. Hopefully they close it out sharpish so we can finally rise when we get good/great news which we’ve had all fecking year!
Trippytaka - JPM may have only just reached the 0.5% threshold which is the cut off for making a "public" notification. Before that only a private notification needed to be made ie one that we don't get to see ordinarily I imagine.
So it looks like JPM have acted properly on the notification front. As for the merits of shorting in general theme, well that's another matter.
I was reading that the other day league addick as the new thresholds came into effect feb 2021 I think?. So by that statement have jpm been shorting us with less than 0.1% for a while before declaring that?
trippytaka @ 09.03 - for clarification on the short selling rules:
What are the UK short selling notification thresholds?
A private share notification must be made when the net short position in shares reaches 0.1% of the issued share capital of the company, and again at each 0.1% threshold thereafter. This applies to both 0.1% increase and decrease of the position, including when the position drops below 0.1%.
When the position reaches 0.5%, a public notification must be made. A public notification must be made again at each 0.1% threshold above 0.5%.
Once a public disclosure has been made, it can be viewed on the “short position daily update” published on the FCA website.
https://funds-axis.com/uk-0-1-short-selling-notification-threshold-here-to-stay/
I’ve been convinced for a long time we were being shorted or some kind of price manipulation hydro…but why would jpm disclose a small short now? I’ve racked my brains but can only think of one reason…is to increase the scare tactics and/or boring people out if their shares? What’s your view on why disclose now?
Yawn. That’s very dated Hydrant, all about 10 years old.
Those post gfc fines led to increased regulation and increased compliance within those IB’s…hard to believe they would be getting involved with AIM
CJ,
Just get it done as soon as you are able to do so.
I lost a very good friend who should have had it done, but sadly dithered and decided it wasn't for him.
Ok, My observations from Starbrights 'Moving on Comments', he certainly knows enough as to how to manipulate a market :O)
Ok, My observations from Starbrights 'Moving on Comments', he certainly knows enough as to how manipulate a market :O)
Hey CJM - just to let you know my best thoughts are with you and trust that everything works out well for you from now on - with GGP on the one hand and your health on the other. Wishing you well!!!
@Canary3. Whenever I want to get a 20m short on GGP, here’s what I do:
T-1
- organise a Zoom to ensure all players are on deck:
- All 7 market makers
- FCA regulation
- Craig from LSE
- Every trader with a DMA facility
- ‘Deep Throat’ who manages trade reporting on the ‘exchange
- Colin, Sliotar, BiggL, Coolio and the rest of the LSE team
- In the last hour of the day suspend Operation Smackdown, our ongoing price manipulation / market management program on the LSE ‘board. The SP will rise sharply
- ‘Deep Throat’ will ensure that all buys are reported as sells and all sells are reported as sells, as well as readying some “late halibuts” to report after the bell. Also some CANX trades for maximum confusion
- This will throw the LSE ‘board into a flat spin, especially @not-the-sharpest-tool-in-the-shed
- Working closely together into the closing auction, all 7 market makers + every trader in the market with DMA will fix the UT to create a launchpad for T0
T0
- Keep Operation Smackdown on hold, so the price rises sharply through the early morning
- Wait for a window when @Hydro is temporarily distracted from “defending his investment”
- With preparations complete, use algos operating in a dark pool to *DROP THE SHOMB*
- Reinstate Smackdown, letting Colin, Sliotar, Coolio and the boys have at it on the LSE ‘board. Their specific objective is react to @Hydro’s posts, countering them as best they can
- Posts that are just too good to counter will be nuked by Craig from LSE
- The 7 market-makers will operate in close collaboration/formation throughout this period to ensure that all buys are reported as sells and all sells are reported as sells
- With shockwaves from the Shomb reverberating around the market, watch the price slide whilst stroking the white kitten on my lap
- Mid-afternoon (whilst no-one is watching) buy the short back without moving the price
- Pay off the team, count my winnings and organise celebratory beers in the Hamilton Hall
Simples ;>
DH hey that brought my thoughts up as bit above 25 years old, fibbing of course :-) 26 really
Have a great w/e and great to chat together , your round :-))
ATVB
Tom :-)))
Cj hey, I nearly passed out with that explanation wow. As you said earlier don't look into it further as the main man will be your saviour, please GOD.
Let them take FULL control and thats my bets advice and they will not let you down, THEY are the experts so listen to them ONLY.
Have a great w/e my Friend and God bleas to you and family.
T x
You both make me feel like a nipper at 66 lol.
Thanks H.
Given a choice I would prefer an abdominal anurism to a thorasic. It doesn't lie behind the ribs, and some of the supply, head and arms has already branched by then.
The idea of getting at it through the rib cage gives me the collywobbles.
Same message from me CJ take care and hope it can be resolved safely all the best.
Cjm hey,
The main thing is, and as i know the NHS are absolutely EXCELLENT and so much under pressure ATM but "STILL IN FULL ACTION" If I did not have their FULL support I would not be here today and GOD bless them all as I was a wounded person that they helped me to recover until this day, I owe them my Life !!!!!!!!
I have found them so right and sure to the way forward and Cj they will be there for my friend, don't worry please and let them get you back home.
My dearest wishes with a real tear in my eye as I know what it is like to have these hits and nearly the same as you just turned 71, Thank God.
Tom:-))
We've got a bit in common Tom I've been with ii since td waterhouse as well and before that Campbell Neill in Glasgow when you had to get a quote over the phone lol . Hope you and yours are keeping well . Atb
Hi Tom thanks for your good wishes.
I have a 'thorasic aortic anurism'. The plan is to CT scan in April to see if and by howmuch it has grown in the six months between scans. They will also do ultrasound scan to determine heart valve function.
I feel OK in myself. Considering I'm mid 70's. Daren't google it yet, far too scary. I have been told to stop drinking which I have done and no heavy lifting.
I supose I'll have to just grin and bear it.
Glad to hear your good news. Stay well and enjoy each day
Chris M
Cjm hey, hope your are keeping well and safe. Not with HL however,
I have been with ii for a good number of years since the old TD times and can confirm that ii DO NOT lend out shares for Shorting, as was discussed last year on here when the same question was asked.
This can be confirmed by sending them a secure message from your account just to give peace of mind to holders, as I did last year.
Have a great w/e, wish the Sun came out, but hey ho its not raining, at the moment, result :-) lol
Hope to see a good next week hopefully so BOL to all GGPERS and great w/e too.
PS:- Off topic but two great films on tonight if interested,
C4 21.30 MIDWAY have not seen it yet but looks V/G ( beer time )
ITV 22.30Run all Night with Liam Neeson ( Brilliant film ) 10/10 ( beer time ) and a bag of popcorn lol
Tom :-)))
Thanks CJ reassuring my own shares arent being used against me
I use HL and II
I am sure neither do.
I hope Hargreaves dont lend out my shares for Shorting will be pretty pi@@ed if they do
Mattyboy - I think with most brokers you have to proactively allow them to lend out your shares. Whether the income that can generate for you is worth it vs. the implications is a personal choice. On one hand the total amount on loan is negligible relative to the total shares out there (and corresponding voting rights) and it appears that even a 20million chunk can be quite easily absorbed, so does it do any harm? Personally I wouldn't want my shares to be loaned out as a matter of principle, even though I don't believe that the shorting action we've seen will impact the ultimate capital appreciate we will see.
Read Bamps 11-17
The clue is here "the loan will terminate and you will stop receiving loan interest."