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I suggest you keep asking Futura the questions about what the “company believes” and what the Notified body approved and what claims the scientific evidence from FM57 can actually support.
Also ask Futura about what it said back in 2015 when
SPR300 was dropped from the pain portfolio.
“The methyl salicylate and menthol product, SPR300, did not meet its primary endpoint”
“Futura's commitment to developing compelling commercial products supported by evidence- based claims”
You see LB, there are different types of evaporative cooling and there are different types of SOLVENTS (you liked that word didn't you) and chemicals. You also seem to like comparing MED3000 to a menthol lubricant for some reason, but did you know that the chemicals in mint can actually lower your testosterone. Crazy things these little chemicals aren't they.
I'm not to sure what your scientific background is but it seems pretty week, and you do seem to be lacking in knowledge when it comes to the fundamental process of the transfer of latent heat through evaporation. Tbh your lack of knowledge is not my problem, if you like the idea buy more, if you don't you won't. But please stop speculating as to why this company did this and that company did that, you simply aren't party to that information nor will you ever be. Come to think of it why would anyone want to share information with someone as obviously malevolent as yourself.
It’s the only over the counter ED gel so get over it. I bet you were a Remainer and still bleating on about that as well to anyone that will listen
Very strong performance after the RNS well done to those that bought more of the golden tickets, this should build from here on
Two things to remember...
• Med3000 effectively performed well agaist oral viagra
• Everyone knows..if prospective partner or huge investor is going to put big money in...they will get hold of a sample first and try it informally...Why wouldn't they?
I recommend a look at direct competition at phase 3 and as I've said before, consider whether the most likely or least unlikely explanation is ...doing anything he can to slow things down, now if possible and also trying to muddy the waters for launch.
See Hanratty therein lies the issue “ What has been proved is that the Dermasys gel (call it what you want, probably still the same blend of solvents) is just as effective at producing a reaction”
I am not sure it has been proved. But the FDA study may help support the theory or help disprove it. FM57 was designed to study Med2005 not MED3000. The increase in efficacy of MED3000 in FM57 can be explained by a placebo effect of the cooling/rewarming sensation on top of the massage effect. The participants in the MED3000 control cohort felt a change in sensation. Maybe the sensation was pleasurable but it also led them to think they were in the active GTN cohort and it was working. Hey presto placebo effect!
My advice is ask Futura what mode of action the CE mark allows them to claim on MED3000. Is it massaging, Evaporative cooling or even both?
Also the ask them how is massaging in MED3000 different to massaging in a Menthol lubricant which also will have evaporative cooling?
Also ask them why they didn’t progress with SPR300
Yes, he's not naive. He's somehow personally invested, as in he being an ex-employee or maybe ex-lover of the CEO.
I remember there was a shorter guy posting here all doom and gloom, I warned him a few times that he would get rekt and lose his pants, but he didn't listen. That guy ran away pooer, but this LB... that's the old hawkhead, a person emotionally involved with this company (but from hate, not love, still emotions though)
There is not the slightest chance that he is 'naive' and being 'wrong' is not relevant in his conserations.
He only has one aim...maximum damage with a serious purpose.
There is one BIG difference since the history with large phamas.
MD3000 is OTC. This is the game changer
How it works is going to be of no consequence to the user. This will sell and there are pharmas there who will want a piece of this. FUM are sitting on a golden goose and now have funds to wait it out for the best deal. FDA ruling should be the catalyst for competing suitors. (If not earlier). Historical points excepted, However this is different.
Indecently, some of Liam's posts could have been written by an FCO (Derek?)
Yes LB it seems that these negotiations were going on for years with these companies, and they are indeed big players. But to take the attitude that all of these companies rejected the various products because they were all useless is a bit naive in my opinion. One big pharma company clears out and then the next one decides, you know what I think we should get involved now, don't these big pharma companies do their own due diligence before getting involved the way they did. There was obviously something in their products that was working, nobody kicks a dead dog, certainly not that many times. The same could be said about the progression of trials, are you seriously trying to tell me that they decided to fund their own phase 3 trials on a wing and a prayer. It was obvious that the product was having an effect, that is why they embarked on further trials. And yes the phase 3 trials didn't meet their clinical end point, but they weren't testing it against a placebo, they were testing it against Dermasys, their highly volatile gel. You keep talking about the placebo effect, but to be honest GTN is a proven vasodilator, and you can save the life of someone who is suffering an angina attack by simply spraying it under their tongue (it has a rapid effect). I find it hard to believe that GTN would not have an effect when absorbed directly through the skin, and to be honest the GTN thesis has not been disproved so far. What has been proved is that the Dermasys gel (call it what you want, probably still the same blend of solvents) is just as effective at producing a reaction. It's wasn't an ideal way to discover that, but that's how real life works I'm afraid, a lot of discoveries occur through trial and error. Yes there was a failure by FUM to recognise this at an early stage, but given that GTN is a KNOWN vasodilator, I can sort of understand how they over looked this. I wish they hadn't because things could have been so much simpler for this company. Do you think that Atlantis have done their due diligence on this product? they obviously put more faith in the trial's resultant P value and the opinion of Professor Ralph, than you. In fact ,who are you again and why should we believe your COMPLETE negativity, did it ever occur to you that YOU might have got this wrong. To think that companies like Atlantis and previous big pharma players are gullible and don't want their own informal trials before getting involved is naive in the extreme, especially after all of the doubt that has been sown. So the product will be tested again, probably in China, the fact is it's out there. Also, don't forget how hard nosed big pharma is, all about the money. Could negotiations have fallen through in the past due to disagreements about money? certainly wouldn't be the first time and FUM is a little fish. What was the split with Atlantis again, 50/50. I think you are so negative because you have your own agenda, too much doesn't add up with your thesis.
And I remember the 2016 fundraising again for £12m at 57p
Boothy it’s 2021 ffs ur stats are nearly a decade ago
All the information is there if you go looking. I posted the exact timelines and links already.
I remember another £12m fundraising in 2014 at 57p in 2004
LB would it be possible to get the actual timeline, E.g. Reckitt 2010 - 2013.
Glaxo were the first to walk away from the Erectile product when it still contained GTN. They also later handed back the rights to the Futura Pain product too which they had also signed.
Reckitt then handed back the rights to CSD500 and the MED erectile product. They signed the MED product after GSK but already had the CSD500 product going back to its SSL days
Ansell also signed PET500 but that partnership ended too
Church & Dwight then signed CSD500 but they later too walked away from it. They never seemed to show any interest in signing MED.
Since Reckitt and the many potential partners shareholders were told about. Not one was signed. Shareholders again were asked to fund the phase 3 study which MED failed and has now become juts a Medical device
LB I have unfiltered you to ask a serious question, do you have the timeline for when all of these big pharma companies got involved with FUM in the past?
there is competition eg Levitra
There’s only one ED topical medication available over the counter and it’s this one, that’s all you need to know which is why this has multi-bagged already and has a lot more multibagging to go.
That is not true. I am querying why distributors only get to see all the data after signing confidentiality agreements but shareholders who are being asked to invest more money are being asked to do so and they have not even seen all the data. Shareholders should ask the questions and those telling you shouldn’t you need to be very weary of their motives. I do think MED3000 will generate some sales but it not a ‘breakthrough’ treatment. It could be a breakthrough in placebo type treatments but only time will tell if people keep buying it and it keeps working for them. The other issue is I am not sure if if any of it is patentable. Need to see the published patents first. But as far as I can see any sexual lubricant gel can have the same massage mode of action and any menthol lubricant can claim the same evaporative mode of action. Again time will tell what competitors do.
Well said will take my position tomorrow depending on what the sp does LB talks the past a lot has changed since then dyor gla
His prime motivation since the company's breakthrough is to try everything to sow doubt. We have seen every devious trick by this individual. Many have speculated as to his motivation as he posts often irrelevant and old news. He continues to do so. If you understand this it helps to decipher his many posts. He has been the lone voice and many speculate that he is the mouthpiece of a sophisticated body trying to drive down the price. Trust your instincts about the company.
Read the RNSs. Recognise that funding doubts have been solved.
We are now waiting on product marketing, commercial deals. It is coming so hold onto your golden tickets.
Good luck and the best thing you can do it put LB on filter. I haven't filtered him but know his game and find him hilarious.