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Looed, may thanks, that's excellent work. I was completely wrong in my assumption regarding the Georgian personal numbers and thanks bugsy for pointing out that Nikoloz is Zaza's son and thanks also to ODR1 and Oopsi for their original posts (I'd previously noted Nikoloz had registered Frontera U.S. Ltd and Frontera Trading Ltd on 15/01/2020 and 16/01/2020 with a link in my post on 20/05/2020 11:59 but omitted the ID numbers). My error with the ID number means I may also be wrong in assuming Ramaz and Manana Mamulaishvili are older than Zaza and therefore his relationship to him which I speculated on in my post of 07/04/2021 17:20, but they still appear to be family members. I must have missed the info in the submission you quoted as I took some time away from this chatroom. However, when I discovered Nikoloz's companies last year, it does answer my thinking it was strange that two new Frontera entities had been created in Georgia and owned by a Mamulaishvili. It certainly adds more weight to my speculation.
Tsbs I think JRjnr is an investor like the rest of us. B20 however was pointing at FEGL some time ago as being important, and that, alongside the communications that Looed and others received, are what keeps me hopeful that this may yet turn in our favour. sep 2020 - “ZM and the company have faced unprecedented challenges due to the regionally significant asset we own and the implication but this is about negotiating a mutually workable solution” - I found this interesting because even then B20 made a distinction between FRR and Zaza Oct 2020 - “ZM resigned from politically and case sensitive Georgian entities to facilitate deal” And earlier, B20 commented on FIG (which I think is FEGL) - 18 May 2020 - “FIG, oocs,feg,frus - In November gogc took 50%ownership of fig at the same time Frr transferred their percentage to an investor. ” 1st May 2020 - “when the OOCS was signed and the controlling entity setup FRR transferred their share to an undisclosed investor”
Haven't quite followed all the recent posts mostly due to legals being way over my head!! Is zaza really that conniving to hold several SH meetings, field visits, personal communications with SHs (mole have you tried him?), II money raising and numerous media interviews all in a effort to pull the wool over eyes and steal the asset from us. The recent revelations do suggest this but i do feel there is far more to the story to be revealed. I'd also imagine there are some heavyweight investors who might have something to say if zaza takes all! Clutching at straws but if the asset is as big as they say it is and in geographical strategic corridor then there is plenty to go around once a deal is struck!
Some of those perceived insiders could do with dropping us a bit hopium!
WellOiled - hope this helps (originally posted by ODR1 & Oopsi Jan'20) and the ID number is the same ID that you posted at 20:07
"Two NEW frontera entities registered yesterday (links below). Assuming that is Zaza’s son. Very interesting. Answers on a postcard.
Company Name: Frontera USA LLC Legal form: Limited Liability Company Identification number: 405373313 Registration number: 15/01/2020 Registering authority: LEPL National Agency of Public Registry Legal address: Georgia, Tbilisi, Vake district, k. Kekelidze St., N5 Additional Information: Email: email@example.com The person providing the information is responsible for the authenticity of the additional information.
Information on the process of liquidation / reorganization / insolvency it's not registered Leadership / representation Director - Nikoloz Mamulaishvili, 01017019486 Partners Owner of Share Nikoloz Mamulaishvili, Shareholder, 01017019486 100% Commitment
A bit on Georgian ID cards - a person can apply for a Georgian ID number upon reaching 14 years of age. They have a 6 month window to apply and "the personal number is assigned...according to the place of residence". I can't be 100% sure but it might be that age isn't directly linked to the ID number. https://matsne.gov.ge/en/document/download/31504/28/en/pdf
WellOiled - I can't find his ID number but this is from one of the submissions in the ZM v SN etc. case:-
"16. It has also been discovered that Mr. Mamulaishvili and his son, Nikolas Mamulaisvili, have surreptitiously formed their own companies, branded in FRC’'s name, to engage in business previously operated by the Company. This appears to be an effort to take over FRC’'s business and/or redirect proceeds from the business without authorization to do so. Upon information and belief, to this day these companies continue to produce and sell oil from FRC holdings."
I can't recall who originally shared info on the two companies set up involving Zaza's son, but I think those posts must have the ID number.
bugsy, I'm happy to accept the Nikoloz referred to in the document is Zaza's son as it does not give his personal number. I presume Georgia issues personal numbers chronologically so the lower the number, the older the person. If so, the Nikoloz Mamulaishvili (01017019486) I have referred in my post of 07/04/2021 17:20 is older than Zaza (01024002412). Please let me know if you are able to find out Zaza's son's personal number because it makes much easier to uncover a person's business links.