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Surfie, when you're right, you're right.....
The only thing is if you (the individual) are going to invest in high risk shares then you have to expect the majority to fail, otherwise they would not fall into the "high risk" category.
So yes XSG and EVE (to name but just 2) are struggling SP wise currently, and there are obvious reasons why.
There are plenty and plenty of safer shares that over the long term will most likely do well with capital appreciation and divi's to boot.
There must be a reason why you are drawn to the high-risk type share?
Hi Username, Yanis,
We all have our thoughts and perspectives. In a sense it'd be better we keep them to ourselves but then the BB would wither and all the good info would disappear! I'd hate to share a perspective and be wrong and cost someone else their money or lost potential profit. I have to say that my record is not that great here (so far) but I have time to see how things play out before I need the money back.
Do whatever you feel best / least annoying if it goes wrong.
Username, I fully 'get' your points. I agree to a certain extent but..
You are not a holder at the moment (that's what you posted) and it's impossible not to have a different perspective depending on whether you're in or out. Surfie just arrived and I have a different perspective on XSG to when I was a holder, and to wyn and surfie now. If I buy, my perspective will instantly and genuinely change. As an outsider you look at eve now and see the absolute negative view which I dare say you genuinely hold but I do think it too pessimistic (and maybe that's because I'm a blinkered insider, but I can't help that).
Eve has proved to give lots of chances to get in low. I myself made my penultimate purchase at 2.95p, then my last at 3.33p. However, we have had the update since then and while not spectacular it was pretty good, and I would say better than people on here were saying they expected. I would be surprised to get below my 2.95 again (though not impossible) simply because it's a news rich time of year for eve and the news these days is generally an improvement on the old news. Autumn and winter is also good time of year for eve. Not only do people buy bedding for the winter but there's Black Friday and fast sales. Christmas (gifts) is off the blocks any day soon. It won't even be long before we talk about the January TU (there, I just did!).
Add in the possibility (even though I lean towards scepticism on this) of a Director buy which would give a short term lift at least and I don't see much chance of below 2.95p myself. I could be wrong; I said that AIM Trader (are you still there AT?) was mistaken when he said he'd buy 3-4p when the price was, I think, around 5p. He was right and I was wrong.
It's very difficult if you want short term profit with eve (not impossible; remember the spike) but if you buy with long term in mind you should be ok – I think..
It's good to see you over on XSG D-Geeman. As you know Wyndrum joined in over there asl couple of weeks ago and brought with him some of the bad luck we have been enjoying here. Wyndrum you posted "Don't look Surfie" a few days ago because EVE went up a fraction of a percent! Since then it's resorted back to perpetual freefall. An absolute howler of a share.
"The" seller, Yanis (with respect and not to create animosity,) could quite easily be lots of individual people (pi's) exiting.
However we cut it, the latest update wasn't "amazing".... it was "ok".
This is, I have eventually accepted, a stock that will take a lot longer than anticipated, to recoup to some reasonable value. I was, a little naive perhaps at the time, despite the initial, rapid imporovements, of Eve.... blindsided, as many of us were and still are, that Eve should be worth over 10p sp already.
How's this then, for an analogy...... some on the left (politically) had Corbyn as their new guru, "the almighty" lmao (despite him not being religious as far as I know.....). Believed totally that his fresh (but old) narrative in labour and general political stance was a given..... however, when it came to the crunch.... he could only muster up a few "die harders" and came crashing down with an enormous dollop when it involved everyone to make the decision of who to run the country.
Now.....Eve is far from a disaster, but it's also far from a raging success. It's simply "on it's way" which means that it'll have followers that will jump on and off the merry band wagon until Eve are more stable and going from strength to strength. There are...still many wounds to heal and this isn't just about what's on the plate...it's also what's "been" on the plate (Woodford) for example.....he's a stain that I dearly wanted to believe had gone but perhaps the market overall is still cautious. Once bitten twice shy could be another analogy.
With all of this in mind, I also look at the TA side..... not saying I'm an expert, but combined algorithmically, what I'm seeing are very similar.... despite what some on here might say..... whether it's hourly, 5 hourly, daily, weekly or even monthly...... it's pretty much coming back with sell, sell, sell..... sorry, but the market doesn't have the confidence yet until........ from what I can see the sp has made a marked dent in the 2's (2.9's to 2.5's) possible revisiting 2.2 regions which, yes, I know, sounds literally criminal.
That's what I see...... and crazily enough, isn't meant to sound bad, negative and super de-ramping.... it's merely where it needs to go for now..... then...... a path to recovery. If you're thinking of investing, topping up, etc...think twice first......
All in my pragmatic opinion. Gl whatever you decide and I am still an interested PI
I sold other stock in the past to bring the cash to eve Yanis. As it's turned out the money would've done better had I left it – so far. I do expect it to turn out well in the end. You know what I'm saying; not all eggs and one basket etc.
Hopefully a Boots / CBD announcement just after you buy and instant profit. Who knows.
Another 600k at 3.10p. The seller, whoever it was, must be out by now.
I sold another stock so … I will be adding more tomorrow.
Andinio, I am working on the basis that you are right and the sp will catch up. It's just in these times of drift that people move their money away. It's something I've considered myself but never really done as I'd hate to be out when something does happen.
If someone came along as a suitor I think that would really get the price up anyway. What I do fear a a reverse take-over (with likes of Simba) as that froze the SP for two months last time and who knows what the deal would be for us at the end of the process.
(Wyn, off-topic but do you follow Tiziana? Decent Director buy there this morning. It's a friendly BB but Tils is off to Nasdaq soon)
potential perfect storm.
Agree.
SP sentiment not aligned with value.
Assuming EVE remain ontrack - either SP will eventually catch up after filtering out weak holders OR a buyer will take advantage of growth prospects and a weak market cap.
Yep but Mr Market doesn't care at the moment ... long term hold I reckon
@ 3.2p - EVE enterprise value sits below 3 million.
Quite remarkable.