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What ??? - "I only posted in response to BBaggins one-sided post for fun" - are you having a laugh - go a long way back through my EUA history - you need to do deeper research
There's only a fraction of holders trading or selling or even adding on a daily basis.
That's a fact, suppose for arguments sake we say that there are 3 Billion shares, now dividend the average volume, so let's say 15 million average.
Realistically thats half a percent, even if you double that figure, your still at 1%.
In summary with all3the noise & fun & games being played on here, the FACT remains 99% are holding on any given day.
I only posted in response to BBaggins one-sided post for fun, and just to point out the other side of the argument.
We go back some time on here and you used to be a positive EUA shareholder back in the day, JTMacs likes you for leading him here, me, I think you are somewhat two-faced, over the last year or more you have repeatedly thrown the odd hand grenade into the mix here and try to stir by posting the odd retort, and then when posters reply to you, you choose to ignore and not respond! up to you how you go about dealing with replies, but why come on here to post that!
No one mentioned you,
No one called you a basher,
"All the utter copy and paste rubbish does not good to anyone new thinking of investing and is miss leading"
Apart from what I just posted, I rarely copy and past, preferring to construct my own posts!
You are an odd chap ....... If you want to post this share is going to drop and then come back and gloat!
Don't be surprised if you are not received with open arms, I remain perfectly happy with my investment here, thank you.
Enjoy your day ....
I actually don't agree with Billions or Amers here.
I don't see myself as a ramper, nor a deramper. I like to think my views are reasoned and relatively middle of the road. I don't feel that the "rampers" have attacked anything I have said. Indeed some responses are quite thoughtful. The same on the deramper side.
Rather than blaming "the other" I think people need to analyse the style in which they post. Anyone who thinks they deserve friendship and cuddles whilst laughing / mocking the investment choices of others is deluded. Aggressive deramping also serves no purpose. You aren't saving people by being nasty. If you want to have a view, great. Try and post it respectfully and back it up. Honestly think there are some from both camps who do this and they are well received. Becoming more tribal is, shockingly, not the solution to the issue of tribalism on the forum.
As an aside... The SP is taking a hammering. It is tough to see. I get why investors are nervous/frustrated/angry. Please though, take responsibility for your own decisions. No one forces you to invest and no one stops you selling at any time, only you. These forums are good for indicating sentiment, although take with a large dose of salt, and sometimes for throwing up an angle or research you didn't consider. Blindly following conclusions of others is not recommended.
Anyway, I hope everyone succeeds in their own investments, whether that is with EUA or elsewhere. Hopefully we can support each other, laugh and have a bit of fun whilst doing it.
Sold on the way up after being in at 3p.
It just got too complicated and complex for the average PI.
But having done so well this is a company I follow.
When I was fully invested I never bought in to the rampy stuff. Got plenty of abuse.
Interesting to see how this develops.
I wish genuine non abusive holders all the best.
Great post BBaggins
I was expecting around £1.22 in a buyout!
As a dividend, somewhat less?
Still holding on tightly to my shares, do you still have yours? :-)
Do you have a dividend price in mind?
Ian with Great Respect we are not bashers, we are realistic. You give hard time, when I said this would be 20p and yesterday I said this would be 18p soon. All the utter copy and paste rubbish does not good to anyone new thinking of investing and is miss leading.
Ian_ - you make the point perfectly - there are 2 sides to everything - there are overly positive and negative people on here though.
No one who treads the middle ground here is tolerated & to put not to fine a point on it is abused.
I am more suspicious of someone who constantly posts one side of an argument than I am in someone who changes their mind or offers contradictory statements (it shows they are thinking and reassessing...)
Are you still steadfast and long and expecting a £1+ payout as previous?
Always report the basher to the board or forum eventually they will have to take action. Collective reporting on a daily basis will ensure the bashers’ demise.
Hope this helps I pulled it from a Google.
Bashers play on your lack of patience. You have held a stock for a while, knowing it will be a big stock someday. The basher can get to you because you are tired of waiting for your gain. When you are getting your plan, you are ripe for a bashing. You are tired and you’ve forgotten that the goal for the stock was to hold it for one year, then see where it stands. The basher is bothersome and tiring, so you dump it on a bad day and so do others. Then you get angry about your loss and you return to the board to let everyone know how mad you are. Congratulations, you too have become a basher. The basher has won and gained a new, unwitting, partner. At this point the basher will buy low and become a pumper, maybe using a new alias, and will try to reverse the trend. Your loss becomes the basher’s gain as your stock rises after you sell it.
The basher is all about bringing the price down. That is the nature of a basher. The truth is not important; lies are the norm. They are trying to hit the newbies visiting the board for the first time, so they post continuously throughout the day. They are trying to wear out the longs on the board and they will do whatever it takes to do so.
Bashers will try to create doubt and get you to research items that they know will lead to the creation of doubt in you and in other stockholders. A typical trick of an advanced basher is to propose that there is a potential “problem” because “we” don’t have the facts on a particular subject. The basher dares someone in the group to find out the answer to the question. The basher already knows the answer and knows what you will find. The power of this tactic is that the basher is now in control of the actions of the stockholders; the basher has you in his web of lies. Most stockholders will do due diligence when confronted with a questionable news story. When the stockholder cannot confirm or deny the story because of too much conflicting information, the basher gains credibility.
What do you do?
It is important to find answers on your own terms. Pick up the phone and call the company, talk to the investor relations person or the CEO until you get a satisfactory answer. The problem here is that the advanced basher has you doing his bidding; you have essentially joined his ranks. So, develop your own little “Due Diligence Package” and answer questions by placing the information into the package. Then you can refer new investors to read your well-researched answers to questions raised in the Investor Information package.What you need to avoid is getting into a conversation with the basher himself or herself about the topic. Once you get into direct conversation with a basher, you give the basher credibility. Answer the question if you need to, but do it indirectly. Never use the basher’s name. Never get into a personality contest with a basher.
Always report the basher to the board or forum eventually they will have to tak
Countless investors find their way to the message boards only to see false posts about company news, “problems” and “Share Price Correction.” Such boards are filled with bashers using a variety of aliases, posting false or misleading information, all in all making it very difficult for a newcomer to tell fact from fiction.
For nervous investors, it is often easier to sell the stock and put the money in the bank. These are the people on whom the bashers prey. Bashers bet on a stock to go down and they do their best to help it happen. They are not concerned with the risk of losing money like the average investor, because they are usually paid to bash the stock. In other words, they are not using their personal funds and are not actually investing themselves, or at least not in that stock. Additionally, bashers do not wait for the markets to go up or down; they make them move themselves. Bashers use fear, lies, and falsehoods to prey on the nervous investor, thus influencing the markets in their favour.
Bashers never bash bad stocks. You can watch the board for stocks with no potential. You’ll see pretty quickly that those stocks don’t have bashers. Bashers only go after stocks that are going upwards or have excellent potential to go up. Bashers get left behind, so they want to bring the price down.
Bashers bring up old news that you have heard many times. All companies always have a few bits of bad news. The basher will post these bits over and over again. The stupid basher will try to make the old news a bit fresher to try to fool you. Don’t be fooled!
Bashers post many times a day. They try to wear you out. They comment on everything, every other post, and can answer every question. To hear them say it, they know it all.
There is no positive comment they won’t bash. They try to control the board with their negativity. If they seem to be working on this one stock full time, that’s because they are! Even more than full-time.
Bashers will lie to your face (or your keyboard). Never trust a basher. The truth on most companies is that mistakes are made and losses happen. The basher will try to make you believe all companies make a profit, release financials every quarter, and have all aspects of the business running smoothly from the start. This is not true. Anyone who says it is true is either lying or ignorant. Don’t listen to either kind. Small AIM companies can go years without profits; this is the nature of the beast.
Bashers know that you can’t verify their statements. That’s why they make the statements they do. You can’t check them out and you may just believe them and then they win. Either way, they don’t lose.
Bashers play on your lack of knowledge. They count on the fact that they can lie about information and you won’t know the difference. And you won’t, unless you have done your assessment of the company and know truth from lie.
What’s m and a deals have you been involved in mr fantasy?
A lot here fit the description. Been saying this for a while, there was an agenda and huge manipulation to get the sp up. The twitter clowns with their inflated valuations and amateur analysis played a big part and no doubt are on someone's payroll.
10. It is obvious that the rampers have an agenda on the discussion board. They are not objective about the financial environment, the company, management, etc. Their posts carry the same one-sided theme. Bad news is good news in reverse. Any good news (even modest good news) is an affirmation of how the stock is going to appreciate to incredible levels shortly.
11. They appear to be rabid on their support of the company – beyond a reasonable amount of enthusiasm, the ramper comes across as almost crazed in his/her excitement.
12. Rampers are egotistical, and it comes across in their posts. Anyone who does not agree with them is an “idiot,” even those who are esteemed in their respective field. They are not respectful of those who disagree with their predictions.
13. When the stock is on a run, the ramping intensifies – the stock is “going to the moon.” This, incidentally, is often a great time to sell the stock. Remember, no one every went broke taking profits.
14. When the stock is in a lull, the ramping may intensify in a desperate attempt to do a quick pump and dump scheme.
15. The ramper will unceremoniously dump the stock when their mission has been accomplished. Those remaining in the stock are now deemed to be “bagholders” by the pumper.
The rampers continue their agenda over and over. It happens on every stock discussion board – especially on penny stock boards, when pump and dump operators and boiler room operators feel they can have an impact on a thinly traded stock.
Fortunately, with practice, we can learn to spot the ramper once we know the red flags. With experience, you get an intuitive feel about various posters on the Internet – even with the anonymous nature of these stock forums.
Learn to spot the slithery ramper, and you'll be a better investor.
Last word : recognise anyone on here ???
Here are 15 ways you can identify the stock discussion board ramper. I’ve seen the same behaviors in the stock rampers across many stock forums. Once you know the warning signs, you can learn to spot the ramper much more easily:
1. The rampers post exorbitant stock price predictions.
2. The rampers warn others they better get in now or else. Their "buy now" posts almost sound like threats.
3. They attack those who disagree with their lofty predictions. They cannot back up their arguments with a rational discussion, so they resort to petty name calling and telling others who disagree with them that they are "full of it."
4. They are not open minded. You cannot have an intelligent discussion with these types. They will do whatever they can to discredit those who disagree with them by spreading false information. They are very often antagonistic.
5. They post their predictions over and over and over desperately hoping to move the market. They never do, because what they say is insignificant to the market. That is because no one knows who they are (see below).
6. The rampers rarely (if ever) backs up their predictions with concrete, specific numbers - if they do, projected sales numbers are way beyond what the company, analysts, and industry insiders say is realistic. But somehow, according to them, even people in the company are overly PESSIMISTIC when it comes to their own sales projections.
7. They post anonymously - they are no-names in the financial world or the particular industry that the company is involved in. Credible people who make lofty stock price predictions will often post their real names – or link to articles they have published - so others can get a feel for their pedigree and can research their background. The vast majority of credible stock market heavyweights do not post in discussion forums. If they do, they usually tell people who they are and can prove it.
8. Oftentimes the rampers are hired by boiler room operations. Their pay grade is whatever you could imagine a company would pay someone to post on Internet forums – not much above minimum wage.
9. Rampers often talk of a fictitious track record in predictions - legends in their own mind. They rattle off all their past “accurate” predictions including that the sun was going to rise in the east today.
you are better off staying away full time.
Nothing of interest here for the none invested.
Just thought I'd pop in and see if the board was still infested with the paranoid Pirate acolytes..
It is, so I'll be back tomorrow - still hoping this does well as still got some in the sock drawer - might be putting them in the loft at this rate :-)