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LB
I've got no problem with shorts either (even though I'd ban the practice of lending shares to bet in favour of failure as it's an open door to manipulation/corruption, but that's just how I feel about shorting). I absolutely wish I'd have had the cajones to open a short on any number of companies over the past few years because if I did I would be retired. I've learned a lot of valuable investing lessons over the past 2 years, none of which I'll repeat in future (probably.........probably not.....we'll see).
And yes, the less shorts the better because it means BR, Vanguard and the likes are distracted elsewhere ..........for now.
All the best
No worries. If you look at the graph I posted there's a shaded light blue 14 day reporting window. It's my belief somewhere in there is where the action takes place. Trades are often delayed and ortex takes a few more to reflect it.
I think the other two you mention (Tilly and Caw) concur. This method seems to give the best yardstick of short sentiment - thankfully currently low like you say.
Each to their own - not passing judgement on shorts. That's their business but good to see it drop if your holding.
ATB LB
LB
Cheers mate, I never believed those short trackers were accurate anyway because if these crooks wish to delay their trades they can do. The fact the short tracker showed a reduction of over 20 million on a day where about 6 million shares were 'officially' traded shows the fallacy of thinking that what happens behind the scenes is all above board and reported accurately.
That fund switch was when a load of the compliance shorts were no longer needed because a lot of funds sold out was still profitable for BR etc. When you own a slice of everything you can't lose anything.
There's hardly any shorts left open here anyway considering there's over 2.8 billion shares in issue so it wouldn't matter what they do at present. The wait goes on, take it easy mate.
They are all delayed from earlier today Tygra. But small fry.
Tilly's Ortex updates will reveal the picture but it takes a few days to show a change. This is the best indication of what's happening on this backed up by real data.
Current level is 14.2M spread over 83 shorts. This is the latest profile...
https://tvc-invdn-com.investing.com/data/tvc_86bc2390f8e784c53dde7b411760cec3.png
Looking at the big drop, I think our pals at BR had the most open. Numbers correlate closely in with their fund exits last month shown on Morningstar.
ATB LB
A lot of - trades with the same timestamp being printed. Could have something to do with the price move (or not) but I know LB, CAW and Tilly are more in tune with the shorts/longs so I'll see if any of those posters can find matching trades:
06-Jul-22 09:35:29 5.2666 66,000 Unknown* 5.00 5.50 3,476 O
06-Jul-22 09:35:29 5.26666 -66,000 Unknown* 5.00 5.50 -3,476 O
06-Jul-22 12:53:50 5.42 70,748 Buy* 5.00 5.50 3,835 O
06-Jul-22 09:39:31 5.3778 30,525 Unknown* 5.00 5.50 1,642 O
06-Jul-22 09:39:31 5.37777 -30,525 Unknown* 5.00 5.50 -1,642 O
06-Jul-22 09:39:00 5.3778 21,043 Unknown* 5.00 5.50 1,132 O
06-Jul-22 09:39:00 5.37777 -21,043 Unknown* 5.00 5.50 -1,132 O
06-Jul-22 09:27:08 4.9166 15,000 Unknown* 5.00 5.50 737.49 O
06-Jul-22 09:27:08 4.91666 -15,000 Unknown* 5.00 5.50 -737.50 O
Would be 'convenient' if a lot of individuals and institutions suddenly decided to all close their positions at the same time.
All the best
Hi all still holding. The same thing happened to me a few years back when i was invested in pog, received a phone call from them asking if i was voting in favour of the proposals. Hopefully EUA comess good soon.
Afternoon - nice to see a chink of blue sky for once !
Re AGM phone calls. I've had it happen a couple years back on another share. Not here though.
I don't recall much about it now but at the time it was a surprise and instantly had my guard up. From memory it was all very polite and non invasive. I emailed the relevant IR at the time to check if it was legit..... they confirmed it was.
Not sure what it was about but could be gauging nominee proxy voting sentiment which can be a complication when nominees have a high share percentage.
These agents are a real thing....
https://www.glasslewis.com/the-role-of-proxy-advisory-firms/
https://boudiccaproxy.com/
....I think it was Boudicca that called me last time. It was a few years back and different share.
Hope this helps.
ATB LB
Keith replied to someone on email and said that Eurasia always employ them and it's just to make sure that people are aware of the AGM and that they will never ask for voting preferences, which is nonsense because:
A) Nobody seems to have ever had a call in the oast few years like this
B) They asked voting preference
I've voted and never had any phone call, but, i've been here years and have never had a phonce call about AGM voting.
I don't see why they would call anyone unless it's to share accounts who do not vote? There is literally no other reason to call someone about the proxy voting.
This year the resolutions are more straight forward than last year due to no inclusion of a special resolution to do with securities, this years it's a very basic and easy vote imho
GLA
Ocat,
Funnily enough i never answer the home phone because of scam calls lol.
@Lenoman home number for me, hence suspicion of spam call lol
CTC,
Number is 037138 42693, They obtain your number through your broker, in my case HL, and they submit whats called a F793 disclosure form. The details on your broker/nominee account will include either a home telephone number or mobile number. Im not sure if they are ringing mobile numbers, perhaps others can verify if this is the case.
CTC1988 think they possibly could if said company proved working for the holding company? Boudicca, the company, are legit. Lloyds are holding my shares in their Nominee account. As I have found out I can't get an Investor code for virtual AGM from LINK myself because of this. At the moment waiting for Lloyds to come back with me with what they say will be Investor code for them that I can use. Still thinking of going up for AGM but 9am start is a killer.
just a passing thought if everybody told the proxy company ringing Re AGM voting No BOD might be scared into releasing some sale info? Joking lol! I will be voting in favour
CTC1988 probably got them through Broker nominee accounts
Lenoman ok, probably my tone as thought was at first a spam/fraud call didn't dare ask me lol
Ocat,
They asked me if i would mind indicating how i would vote, with caviat that an answer was not neccessary
Was told asked to vote on behalf of the boards decision on proposed resolutions and that they were in best interest of the shareholders.
GLA
They asked how intended to vote... Not just aware of the AGM.
phone call yes, legit Eurasia proxy company, but only to ask if I knew of AGM, not voting preferences, wouldn't have told them anyway. Are they even allowed to ask how you would vote?
Yes
Did anyone get a phone call asking to vote at the AGM 28th July 9am? - to vote for the companies best interests...