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Nice post RR3
Agreed.
And apart from the odd crank this is a supportive bunch yes.
I’m in Ncyt. Cat-fight!!!
1. Hold nerve.
2. Be patient.
3. Have faith in your research, which is why you originally invested here (or should be).
It's only human to question yourself when you see the price drop like this and to wonder if you've done the right thing. I keep reminding myself that there are so many possibilities for this company and multiple chances to commercialise their research.
Just added again to average down a bit and just to make sure I'm not kicking myself when this takes off!
Good luck to everyone and thank you for making this a great board to visit.
Shorts having to work a bit harder
12:14:24 66.60 2,307 Sell* 1,536 A 12:14:24 66.60 367 Sell* 244.42 A
12:14:24 66.60 1,940 Sell* 1,292 12:14:24 66.10 256 Sell* 169.22 A
12:14:24 66.20 886 Sell* 586.53 A 12:14:24 66.20 1,700 Sell* 1,125 A
12:14:24 66.20 2,007 Sell* 1,329 A
12:14:24 66.60 2,036 Sell* 1,356 A
12:14:24 66.60 271 Sell* 180.49 A
12:14:24 66.20 4,782 Sell* 3,166 A
12:14:24 66.20 2,007 Sell* 1,329 A
12:14:24 66.60 96 Sell* 63.94 A
12:14:24 66.60 2,211 Sell* 1,473 A
12:14:24 66.20 2,571 Sell* 1,702 A
12:14:24 66.20 2,007 Sell* 1,329 A
12:14:24 66.60 2,307 Sell* 1,536 A
12:14:25 66.00 1,677 Sell* 1,107 A
12:14:25 66.00 3,323 Sell* 2,193 A
12:14:25 66.00 2,583 Sell* 1,705 A
12:14:25 66.00 185 Sell* 122.10 A
12:14:25 66.10 1,700 Sell* 1,124 A
12:14:25 66.10 5,000 Sell* 3,305 A
12:14:25 66.00 3,732 Sell* 2,463 A
12:14:25 66.60 1,700 Sell* 1,132 A
12:14:25 66.60 1,453 Sell* 967.70 A
I might be wrong but 4d hasn't announced results since the Blautix results last October. Thats 12 months without new results. While theres been a lot of updates and positive news, without study results the SP will continue to bounce around. Particularly when it comes to institutions buying in.
Biotech is a binary game when it comes to investing, study results move the share price permanently, positive it goes up, negative it goes down. Everything else will cause ripples.
I've bought in slowly to average down and am confident in the investment, 4D have too many products in the pipeline for it to be a complete failure.
"Sunnyca- agree, I really cannot understand why it is that highly intelligent people who work in biotech cannot compute that times have changed and that private investors are now a very significant audience and they need to be explained things in layman's terms.
Tech sector are already doing it, all other sectors are really. Time for biotech to get off their high horse perhaps (I find this is not just a 4D thing)"
I get the frustration but I also get why, for want of a better term, they don't dumb down the language. I don’t think it’s controversial to say that the strategy of any business should be to aim its main investor communications at the profile of investor that is most important to it and its long-term success, be they current or potential investors. Like it or hate it, for small pre-commercial drug focused companies such as 4D that profile of investor is not the layman private retail investor who has limited knowledge of the space.
Tick you up on that.
Short term who knows? Oliveira must have sold a large amount of his holding though. Been at it since 2nd Sep when price was much higher.
Any share can go anywhere.
RBS got to 10p. Lloyds 22p. Glencore 65p . Etc etc
But he will eventually run out of shares.
Ok the s/p coukd be anywhere. But as you say…updates are on the cards. Several irons in fire. 0518? Never count on success but has been promising to date.
It’s all up in the air atm.
Buy or forget.
I’m overweight too. Not just physically ( I’m not). In 4D. But yer pays yer money….
The 'good' news is the science, on the basis of results so far, looks great and we're fully funded through to the end of next year, if milestones are met. We've been promised key updates this quarter.
The 'bad' news is we've not had a key oncology update yet, why?? And Oliveira's selling up could drove the SP a lot lower, easily into the 50s, when there's no sign of any institution jumping in to replace him.
Agree with Sangi that if you're confident in the science, and happy to work to a 3 year timescale, this could do very well; potentially very well on a shorter timescale even.
But with every day that passes, without an update, this feels riskier and riskier to me.
I said yesterday I'd consider topping up if this hit mid 60s, on balance I think it needs to hit mid 50s before I'll top up further - but that's because my portfolio is overweight on 4D as it is.
Each to their own though.
Answer :- Last week
Imriegr, honestly? I might have to apologise to Sang R.E. "investors" after that one. Or is this a wind up ??
any news on the two presentations that were to take place 16th to 21st sept ?when are they /
redundant
Not at all
It is wise in the stock market
But too much caution males the stock market refundant
is it so brutal to suggest caution?!??
#savesmoney
Yes. But we don’t have to be.
stock trading isn't nice...it's brutal
In times of agitation it is not so nice to rub noses in it.
Good for you for making money.
Trading and investing should go hand in hand.
Seems to be a distinct lack of empathy around today.
To err is human. To dig the knofe in is also human for some.
This is not such an easy time for many holders.
Consider before posting one or two people who are not affected.
I’ll get off my moral horse now. But maybe I say a sliver of truth.
Maybe a wasted post.
fair enough...although one of the great joys of this game is liquidity (I made my dosh in private equity)
No trading mate. Conviction investing I believe they call it.
yep, seems a tad more savvy to wait....
you can know a little of the science but little of trading, & that's fatal lol
DPC Sure
I was just trying to reassure and educate -maybe-some investors. It’s a tatty article but holds some truths about shareholder manipulation at times.
I was just trying to calm the tirbulent waters on which I am also afloat.
Yes this is tough to watch but this is a long term investment for me (Doesn't make the slide any easier to digest).
crl123, I've seen that takeover article posted on nearly every aim share I own when they are having a tough month(s) - not sure you can read too much into it.
Sanguijuelas
I very much appreciate your posts in general.
I would ask you to have a little empathy for those” lazy” investors who have not ten bagged. It really is not that simple. People of all metaphorical “ shapes and sizes” invest. For all sorts of reasons. Lazy is only one attribute.
You are obviously irritated. But some decent human beings are probably hurting.
I encourage people to read the link under takeovers yesterday.
It explains a little along with the distressed seller.
Sang - You being the sophisticated investor will presumably keep buying all the down to the cash value of around 15p...
What do you think you actually achieve with your constant whinging?
Just sick of lazy investors spreading FUD because they are upset that their 10 bagger expectations haven't been met within their magical thinking time frames