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4D clawed back nearly 10% of losses on the Nasdaq yesterday
There's not going to be a conflict with Russia. It would escalate to nuclear and the rules of MAD are still in play.
Russia may invade, there would then be sanctions and NATO forces positioned in countries around the old Soviet Union borders to show that you can go this far but no further.
Russia would not be able to control the Ukraine. It would be Chechnya on steroids and Putin already has his work cut out dealing with political opposition at home.
It's all a distraction and the drama suits all parties. Biden is weak, Macron has elections coming up, Germany is in a state of political turmoil and Johnson is hanging on by a thread.
Sanguil.
I believe you. But my first degree was in Politics and German and I did study the KGB’s elite. He wasn’t Elite at the time. He got his black belt in judo and did what he was ordered to. He was definitely in E.Berlin when I was there as I remember reading about his activities. Maybe he was a hedonist above all, but he allegedly managed the demise of a few unpopulars. He hated Gorbachov and claimed that he gave away Russia and vowed to get the satellite states back. Parties or assassinations, the bloke is amoral..even psychotically so , it has been mooted. He has had so many people poisoned by strontium or Novachuk or just shot in the back of the head or had their plane diverted because of a “ bomb” etc etc. But Stalin. Kruschev, Breschnev, Andropov…probably just as bad. Remember the umbrella poisoning in the tube in London?? . Putin so clever though. He is doing more than testing Nato. He wants Ukrain. Firstly Donetsk in the East…and then little by little. But he is testing Nato and particularly the US. Trump might have threatened to nuke him.
Not funny, but………..Trump = unhinged.
France/Spain /UK/US all sen serious front-line arms to Kyiv today. I don’t see this as just a test. But hope it turns out to be. Putin loves to posture. But economically the Roosky stock market dived today and they will suffer hugely economically .
Putin knows all this. Wily fox.
I wish I had the funds to buy 4D.All in shares on a loss. I would snap up right now. Surprised not more shorters buying.
Robins. I feel for you. I am probably losing far more than you but the system has no barriers. I bought Trinity at £1.56 in 2014. They dropped to 1.6p in the 2015 oil crash. Imagine what I lost. I held Stobart just before covid. Thank goodness I sold. They own Southend Airport. Dropped 80%. Think they are Esken now. . I have many other shares I was in. RBS went to 10p. Lloyds 25p. Glencore 65p !!! Ocado 66p!! 4D’s drop is not uncommon. But it has been very fast!
But it is on the back of a holder of 13% relentlessy selling and shorters knowing it.
I am on a ridiculous monopoly-style loss all-round. It hurts like hell . But I have lost it all before and that’s a place I never want to revisit until my final letting-go :-)
But if Russia invade, watch the Dow plunge. Nasdaq already did today. I’m not sure about what oil will do as it is in such demand.Often goes up in crises.
Pharmas are untrendy right now. Ncyt …misery. 4D joke. But the market can crush share prices as they are just numbers. If there is a resolution to Russia and when SO runs out in June( assuming selling all) then watch 4D rerate. Probably. Can never really know. Me and you and Biker and a few others are on big losses. Mine is eye-watering. But lots can happen in a year.
I have so little left on paper it is laughable compared to a year ago!! Lost 70%. Not great investing. But they were all surprises. I was in SNG when it rocketed. Surprise too!
All for one and one for all mate!!
I bought some today. Nice to get almost 3 for a £1
Sang what is your view on the current share price? Are you a buyer at these low levels or are you content to just hold? Hope you do not mind me asking.
They are just testing the strength of the Nato alliance.
Trying to see if the stress is enough to cause fractures within it.
Putin was based in Dresden though CRL and he spent more time going to parties than assassinating people.
Bit of a Walter Mitty at the time
crl1 I have been buying shares for years but have not seen a share price taken down so relentlessly on no negative news. There has been delay in expected news but no bad news has been reported. Really disgusted with the system that allows this even though I do not understand how it happens.
If that was really his own investment and not South Ocean Capital as a fund( ?) then it makes the selling more understandable.
For you guys on high numbers, I am on 91p with a vast amount down on this share. And every other bloody share today. I was waiting for Putin to find the right moment. Since Crimea. He wants his rx-satellite states back. Me…I can’t see him pulling back now. Germany was stupid enough to allow the gas pipeline from Russia. I saw it as stupid even then. Now they need the gas and Russia has them over a barrel.
This market plummet was in the making. Putin used to be a member of the KGB as an assassin when I went to Uni in Germany eary Eighties. He was in E Berlin when I visited. No morality. Utterly heartless. Even his wife left him for this reason. We will likely see the whole market pay for his obsession with redrawing Europe. I am amazed more did not see this coming. FDA may be concentrating on anti-nerve agents!! Not sure I really mean that!!
We are here for 4D not politics. Sorry. But they are entwined.
And if he was able to trade on inside info he would have got out of Forte before they collapsed from $40 down to $4 on bad data
I’m just goint to wait until SO sells out and the Covid/Russia situation imprives.
I’m sure by the summer things will look different.
I wouldn’t expect SO to have inside knowledge - think of the questions that would come up if SO had sold out just before bad news was issued.
We are now at levels below which we have only ever briefly been - for a few weeks at the start of Covid in march / April 2020, when the backside fell out of the entire market for a short time.
There has been no material adverse news, but we are 80% below the autumn 2020 peak.
It is worth remembering that this went from 20-odd pence to intra-day highs of 170p-plus in just six months.
It could happen again.
I am holding as I see absolutely no point in selling down here. There is surely vastly more potential upside than downside from here.
My average is 110, so low now that there's no point selling for me lol
Sorry for this, but I've just been reading that China have been upping their intrusions into Taiwan airspace so it could be a wider still.
I remember buying a load at 70p thinking I was shrewd.
Whoops.
Dyl
I see it that way too.
I remember buying this when 149p was seen as a good price back in March. Been downhill ever since.
I got in at 58p and thought it was a good price - ah well.Not selling though - all or nothing now!ps I remember Twitter experts saying how Nasdaq listing was all this and that last year - don’t listen to Twitter experts!!I’m sure it will recover well into the year, once SO goes and the Russia/Covid situation recovers, and we get some good RNS’s……