4d Pharma Plc Share Chat (DDDD)

No it’s just generally people who are bullish about the company seemingly because the company is actually in a very bullish position lol!

Be assured everyone’s view is taken into consideration and the downsides are discussed.

The share price will speak for itself. Like I said let’s be honest thats all anyone cares about isn’t it. The share price. How many more multiples of price will we get per share so we can all make money. Let’s not pretend we are in it for any other reason.

Quite frankly the share price will speak for itself.

I doubt people get a word in edgeways, shouty man. So you think Duncan is going to offer the shares at a massive premium to where we are now? :)

Wings...you are coming across on this BB as a bit a pompous know it all.
I assume with only your 66 posts you have been banned before

You have no idea what price Duncan will offer the shares at lol what are you talking about!

Lol also why are you concerned about your percentage of ownership.

Why don’t you shoot Duncan an email sounds like you’ll be able to help him navigate the ship!

I have no doubt the company has a very good idea of the potential overall MARKET CAP that could be achieved post offering and where this will take the share price.

Doesn’t Duncan have like 8-10 million shares last time I looked? I’m sure he will be making educated choices for the benefit of both the company and his own shareholding.

Whichever way you try and peddle your bull**** the share price will be MULTIPLES of where it is in 3-5 years. Certainly within the next year it will multiply.

This could be a 20-30 billion $ company.

If you think your research is on point why don’t I invite you to one of the groups where you have investors that have been researching this from day dot and you can throw your ideas into the lions pit.

People obsessing over share count. Even if they go for the full 40% at the exact price it is now it’s still massively undervalued! Even then (without doing any calcs it will still be under a 500m $ company, and all the additional shares are held in tight grip. So the float doesn’t change.

this is like a Punch and Judy show in here

Wigscoff88

“For any legitimate 4D investor that uses only this forum, i would recommend looking to find some private groups to be part of, where some of the individuals are very learned investors.”

Really? Are such echo chambers not in fact usually stuffed with the most pernicious and most blinkered rampers?

You don’t understand the benefit of not giving half the company away at a dud price. Really?

Pfizer and Merck already signed - others can sign too - without giving up half the company.

Hilarious that someone bemoans the undervaluation then sanctions giving away half the equity at the same valuation.

But you keep shouting, the cucks love it :)

You don’t understand the benefit of additional big pharma on top of Merck and Pfizer collabs? Really?

You don’t understand the benefit of potentially securing the runaway (perhaps on or before the day it lists) all the way to commercialisation, as they would have already factored in inflection points, which will then assist with funding.

Also you have no idea the deal Duncan will cut lol. Also if it doesn’t affect the share price except for people getting the runs over the word dilution and selling, then what matter is it to you lol?

4D secure the funds they need.....potentially being the last ever requirement to raise, and we hit nasdaq completely funded, with additional huge institutional investors on board, we puts us not only under a huge spotlight but also creates a level of competition between institutional investors as the program moves forward.

Hmmmmmmmm LOL

You people are all jokes

Not sure I quite understand the enthusiasm for wigstaffs comment. As a holder, I entirely agree the shares look massively undervalued. So why on earth would I want to give away 30-50% of the value at a dud price? It would make sense if we needed that scale of funds to get to key inflection points, but we don’t. We get those this year. Nor do we need it to tie up relationships with big pharma - merck and others are already onside. So - stating the obvious - I entirely understand the need for more funds, but giving the company away abundantly at a dud price for little reason don’t make sense to me. That’s exactly what the “cucks” do :)

Hang on a minute. Are we comparing NCYT which moved 100 TIMES ITS VALUE IN A SINGLE YEAR WITHOUT ANY MEANINGFUL PULLBACK OR CONSOLIDATION, and is now trading as an OTC stock on the US market to 4D? The stories couldnt be any different if you tried. Completely different part of the sector, different setup, considerably different and recent price action. Not only that regardless of the future for NCYT which is indeed bullish was caught somewhat in a bubble of covid money which has now left. This stock needs to consolidation and find its feet, but will run again.

This is the problem with these forums. People ready to hack and slash each other at every opportunity. People ready to draw comparisons to things which at a more detailed level are polar opposites. I simply dropped in to help dispell some of the fear and doubt sewn by some posters on here which quite frankly highlight themsevles. Most meaningful 4D investor groups operate independantly from here and for good reason. This is because of all these posters would be quickly removed from the groups for talking bull****. For any legitimate 4D investor that uses only this forum, i would recommend looking to find some private groups to be part of, where some of the individuals are very learned investors. Most of whats posted here is utter rubbish. Unfortunately time served as an investor doesnt qualify someone as being a learned one.

Ill leave you all to your cesspit of despair and storytelling so you can dwell in your little sphere of toxic misinformation. Exactly why Duncan is providing a Dual offering.

For the other posters i recognise who i know are part of more central groups, Hello & Goodbye! See you on the darkside! ;)

You mean like NCYT sp has been restored??

rossannan - wigscoff is quite clearly saying ceasing to rely on the fickle trader driven UK AIM market for fund raising since it does not appreciate the inherent value in growth sticks like 4D - we will still be listed on AIM - we will be listed on both NASDAQ and AIM for now- helps to read the RNSs

You know exactly what I meant. I’m not going to forensically pick through what I wrote to appeal to the pedants.

Wigscoff88

“we are leaving the UK market”

News to me!

Well said mate!

Good couple of intelligent Wig88.
You only have to listen to DP frustration at the current and past M cap and god forbid what he must think if he ever read this site.
Try and ignore the noise, don't watch every share movement and just follow 4D progress and understand the company.

Great couple of posts Wigscoff88. I will only add that meeting/s with FDA to seek fastback approval are coming too...!

Wigscoff...very well said indeed. I couldn't agree more. Nothing more to say.

This is is a huge win for us. II’s throwing money us to get their hands on 4D shares so they themselves can sit on them and grow their own portfolios. Us being given the capital in the transaction to succeed and pull ALL the rabbits from the hat.

This is a big win. Quite frankly I hope we can raise between 100m-200m of insti money. This is extremely bullish for the company.

Just wait to see who gets their cheque books out. Eyes wide open.

Dilution! Dilution? *Dilution* I hear you cry!

Sorry I forgot there were members of the board here? Nope. Institutional investors? Nope. High level investors worried about there overall % of company ownership? Nope. LOL.

Lack of education, and people being burnt in aim dog stocks are the cause of this irrational fear of a raising/(dilution).

1. Dilution does not mean the share price will go down! (Because that’s all anyone is concerned about). I.e if they raise at the current price, and it is a private offering to institutional investors only (which it is), then the shares are bought. The market cap goes up. But the shares price remains the same. If they raise at a higher price, great! If they raise at an offering price? Who cares lol. These are high level INSTITUTIONS. They have the stickiest hands of all and will be sat on these for YEARS. It’s not a ****ty aim placing to scrub investors who forward sell there shares, or dump immediately, and you have to churn the shares through buys. These are ii’s and will buy, and then that’s that.

2. Everybody knew 4D would need capital to continue. This is not new, we have known this for sometime, well over a year. This is a money hungry business before we reach full commercialisation. However this is why 4D is as cheap as it is. Be absolutely sure of one thing, if 518 goes to commercialisation you’ll be paying £15+ a share easy. If you want to wait until then be my guest lol. Let alone the rest of what’s coming.

3. This is the sole reason we are leaving the UK market. Because people havent got a scooby what they are looking at or talking about. I’ve spoken to some US guys and they are dumbfounded with the price action, and inadvertently makes them worry that something must be amiss. Surely if things were this good the UK guys would be buying stockk? Why is the share price this low? Why are they selling great news? There must be something we don’t know? We’ll be sure of one thing. When this lists the US troop will VERY QUICKLY realise what the score is here. This will be rightly restored to the share price which reflects the stock. Instead of reflecting the fears and worries and irrationality of ****loads of cuck Uk investors.

Been reading up what happened to Seres Therapeutics, when it’s stock value increased ten-fold from circa $4 per share to almost $40 per share on the below announcement in August last year, linked to a successful Phase III trial to treat CDI - https://ir.serestherapeutics.com/news-releases/news-release-details/seres-therapeutics-announces-positive-topline-results-ser-109

Given that 4D’s focus is on much more serious diseases, most notably cancer, and we have already seen excellent results to date, should MRx0518 be successful either in combination with Keytruda or as a monotherapy, I would anticipate an increase in SP of perhaps 25 x current levels as an absolute minimum.

https://www.evaluate.com/vantage/articles/interviews/spac-makes-it-happen-4d-pharma

We are in the red to day as the markets dropped if you look at loac yesterday they dropped late on in the uk day but 4d stayed up at 149 the drop was telegraphed from about 3 pm yesterday

Sry share realistic but I did answer that the 4d shares will not change no at all you will not have to do any thing at all no research no reading just sit back and watch just to be more simplicity your shares at Lloyds will still be there after the duel listing in your Lloyds acc no change no effort

So we had a red day, as did the majority of the market today.

To anyone concerned about what is perceived to be a dilution, look at the bigger picture to understand who the funders are and what that funding will enable 4D to do: accelerate trials and product development, so we can grow into an absolute beast of a biotech co even sooner.

I wasn’t overly surprised nor concerned about this news or today’s dip, I see it as a defined path to accelerated growth and massive profits. Duncan Peyton is no fool and if you look at his track record, he he has history of delivering shareholder value.

I’m not a huge holder, I have 10,000 shares split 70/30 4D/LOAC and this feels like one of the best stocks I have ever held.

Have a great weekend people. Our rewards are ahead.

i bought just over 6000 shares between 4 and 4.30 in three lots