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fredmufc "It's just a waiting game."
It sure is and I for one can't wait for it to reach single figures, in the mean time it's amusing just watching you getting triggered every day.
SO,,,THIS A N A N T H A TROLL LIKES TO COME OVER ON OTHER BBs WHERE NOT INVESTED, WRITE CHILDISH GARBAGE AND EXPECT NO BACKLASH ....WRONG !!!!!!!!!!!!
warned twice....
just been on anthas BRH SITE...I SUGGEST WE ALL P1ss this troll off !!!
fredmufc "It's just a waiting game."
It sure is and I for one can't wait for it to reach single figures, in the mean time it's amusing just watching you getting triggered every day.
that was HDs post earlier..I simply reposted it. seems whoever is blocked is intent on pushing it down the board.
THAT is why the bb is full of bickering...great posts, drowned out by totally irrelevant linear chit shat !!!
put this back on top where it belongs...
The transition from tobacco products to non-tobacco products is already well advanced and underway. Nicely branded (Chill) alternative lifestyle products will make a lot of headway in this space.
In general there was a comment made by Viridian on the migration from tobacco to tobacco alternatives, and also there is one of alcohol towards THC, as peoples "methods of chilling" change over time with legislation etc.
Clearly Viridian represent players in the cannabis space, as well as the CBD space, and the tobacco alternative space, and I think this was a more generalised comment.
Nobody is suggesting CBD will replace alcohol.....
The simple fact is Chill, either in its products, or even the reselling of others, are in that "lifestyle space"
They have their own products and can continue to bring out pretty much anything "Chill" as time moves on, they can also look to sell others products in the "Chill space" that don't directly compete with its own product lines, with the Chill web domain.
The trolls have continued their argument from first laughing about "flogging CBD out of garages" to then knocking the CBD market in general, to underestimating the tobacco cessation market, to then acknowledging it, then suggesting big tobacco will consume all in this space etc....
The trolling will continue to change from one narrative to another, but as the "non-linear rollout" moves into its next phases the "no updates / no numbers" narrative will fade and die, just like the "no stores" argument before that.
The company will still hit its 10,000 store target, on time, and it will have a non-linear rollout...
The translation for the above is to simply expect, at any point, a "Chill is in X stores", which is significantly above the previous store announcement, and then the same to happen again.
The shorts will not get a period of time in which to correct their positions, because it won't be "we are rolling again at x00 stores a week"
Things will jump in chunks, and alongside additional stores, will be additional SKU's appearing in stores, and online.
Now the SP has remained in this range, having not priced in the Rhino Marketing tie-up, not priced in the Viridian tie up and not priced in or understood the non-linear rollout, nor the TFN product announcement.
I would imagine stores going from the previously announced 2500 towards 10,000 in a short period of time, alongside new products being in those stores, alongside an IR drive in the USA... to put quite the squeeze on any short positions.
To put in context, being in 2,500 stores with 5-6 SKU's (3 flavours of CBD chew pouch, and either the 2 CBD Isolate Smokes or those + Hemp Smokes) is one thing. Being in 2,500 stores with 8-9 SKU's (The TFN pouches in one strength being added) is practically the same as a 50% uplift in stores from the original distribution deal(s).....
It's just a waiting game.
ISWN, what has previously missed targets got to do with this conversation? It’s orchestrated by our resident troll Vas to sow doubt. Just like all his posts. We have a few other trolls on here but he’s the most prolific poster.
the missed deadlines ??
the lack of info from our BOD..
This is old news...it has been talked about in rinse/rpt parrot fashion...we are all well aware if the issues that have dogged us..
however...
we have moved on. the issues have been met head-on. New staff in place which will transform this outfit into a global brand..
and yet...
we still have the trolls trying to dig up the past...dig up irrelevant issues, make up numbers, etc..
so you come on here berating longterm holders for not putting up with the nonsense spouted by these trolls, when they in turn flood the bb with their vitriolic garbage day in day out.
we also then get the othe day trippers here ..nipping in with ine-liners...usually as the sp dips...and you want us to ignore them....as LK said, last week was quiet...all good banter, good chat re chll.
this week ??....
si lets just say admin at lse not doing their job...unless YOU wanna police the bb ??!!
If wanting to know how the company are planning to roll-out to 10,000 stores is keeping you awake at night why not be proactive and drop the company an email rather than ask here?
Probably because it's not really a need to know but more a need to be heard and a need to be disruptive.
Questions that are being asked here repeatedly can be asked of the company - you'll get a definitive answer then rather than getting an answer here that you choose not to believe if it doesn't fit your agenda
Takes more than a couple of replies to offend me.
All I want is a balanced argument, with both sides being able to support views (and to make buckets of cash).
Personally think a lot of the vitriol here is due to missed deadlines from the company which leads people to start guestimating progress. This approach will always rub someone the wrong way.
Putting all that aside, blue day and a very small step towards those buckets of cash….
Technically there was no berating in my first post. Also, it wasn’t the group, but rather the pointless pointscoreing tit-for-tat in the thread. So wrong on both fronts (maybe pedantic, but everyone seems to want facts these days…)
Think I’ve read enough to see that as soon as some people comment, the same copy and post replies are written up which bare no reference to the previous post, just shoot it down as ‘shortest’ ‘green wave’ or ‘ramping’.
I’m not here to sit in anyone’s camp, just want to read balanced arguments without name calling & trivial point scoring.
Will now retreat back to the shadows, as I don’t want to rock the boat.
chill betablockers !!!
where does it say not enough stock to roll out to new stores ??
IF there was a stock shortage, then yes, maybe keep those stores restocked, but only prob I am aware of is the distribution, aka worldwide problem re drivers.
If I have missed something in an rns to state a stock shortage I stand corrected,
ps..we had circa a full week recently with virtually zero trolls inputting their nonsense dressed as meaningful discussion....bring it back
If this is “pie in the sky” then why “assume there is something in …”???
Instead why not trust the latest update on store count as it’s the most up to date info we have and more relevant than Vas “Nov 2020”” statement.
Do you think they would have made the claim of 10,000 stores without thinking they could actually do it? And without neglecting the re orders??
All of this thread is pie-in-the-sky stuff, with everyone jumping at everyone else because no one has any proof of anything. It’s all very playground and lends nothing other than point scoring to this discussion board.
Assume there is something behind the restocking statement……wouldn’t it make better business sense to slow down the roll out to ensure new customers can get their resupply, rather than a taster and move onto a new rival product, which is kept on the shelf?
Like I said, where does it say they "can't fulfil orders from its existing 3000 stores to keep them stocked and protect revenue"??? - You've completely made up this falsehood as you do soooo many other times?
You also say that "they have stated apparently" - again putting doubt into the sentence when you know for the AGM that they didn't "apparently" say anything!
Once again prime examples of you trying to make mischief on here for a share you don't own (maybe have shorted - i'd like to think you have or you're wasting lots of time on something that you have no stake in)! These are typical of the reasons why the vast majority of the posters here have you greened out for being a Troll!!!!
As for your transportation/distribution questions then why not email the BOD's and ask them and then you can come back on here with their answer so you can finally post something worthwhile!
All i was referring to was that that CHILL have admitted they have had a distribution problem throughout the year, you only have to look at the numbers. according to RNS releases
Nov 20 - 250 outlets in first ,
April 21 ( no number given) stated on target for 3,500 outlets by July,
May 21 stated had 2,000 outlets....
July 21 stated it had 2,500 ( 1000) less than predicted in April....
Silence...
and I said "which probably means it can only just, maybe it can't fulfil orders from its existing 3,000 stores to keep them stocked and protect revenue ....." in light of their 10,000 target ......"On top of this they have stated apparently they will also rollout to another 7,000 stores in a six month timeline ,"
How are they going to do both? that's was my question.
He would be lying if he said more than zero! We all know he's NOT a shareholder just an annoying troll trying to interrupt any good news or posts that come up here.
MATT...I assume the greened out one is the daft chuckle...just ask him/her how many shares it holds....linear or otherwise !!
This is one of the most boring discussions I’ve seen on here ffs linear v non linear , who really cares as what can we discuss ? Punctures ! Traffic jams in the US ,why not discuss the exciting products that chill could venture into !
in that case, Owen...just ordered my tickets for city v brugges 03/10 ...mate sitting next to me...so linear seats ?? my topup earlier must have caused this utterly catastrophic sp decline...ah well. could be worse...like be a leeds fan !
Where have they said they are struggling to fullfil orders to the existing 3000 stores?
All I am doing is trying to understand how a company that has admitted ( like lots of others) that it has a distribution problem which probably means it can only just, maybe it can't fulfil orders from its existing 3,000 stores to keep them stocked and protect revenue . On top of this they have stated apparently they will also rollout to another 7,000 stores in a six month timeline , and put product on shelf, and also return to keep these 7,000 stores replenished while they do it.
It goes without saying its a waist of time making just one visit to a new shop, and never being able to visit it again for along time to restock it.
Don't get me wrong i would be very happy if they achieved this 10,000 outlets by Match 22 - I'm just asking the question HOW? considering the circumstances.
The transition from tobacco products to non-tobacco products is already well advanced and underway. Nicely branded (Chill) alternative lifestyle products will make a lot of headway in this space.
In general there was a comment made by Viridian on the migration from tobacco to tobacco alternatives, and also there is one of alcohol towards THC, as peoples "methods of chilling" change over time with legislation etc.
Clearly Viridian represent players in the cannabis space, as well as the CBD space, and the tobacco alternative space, and I think this was a more generalised comment.
Nobody is suggesting CBD will replace alcohol.....
The simple fact is Chill, either in its products, or even the reselling of others, are in that "lifestyle space"
They have their own products and can continue to bring out pretty much anything "Chill" as time moves on, they can also look to sell others products in the "Chill space" that don't directly compete with its own product lines, with the Chill web domain.
The trolls have continued their argument from first laughing about "flogging CBD out of garages" to then knocking the CBD market in general, to underestimating the tobacco cessation market, to then acknowledging it, then suggesting big tobacco will consume all in this space etc....
The trolling will continue to change from one narrative to another, but as the "non-linear rollout" moves into its next phases the "no updates / no numbers" narrative will fade and die, just like the "no stores" argument before that.
The company will still hit its 10,000 store target, on time, and it will have a non-linear rollout...
The translation for the above is to simply expect, at any point, a "Chill is in X stores", which is significantly above the previous store announcement, and then the same to happen again.
The shorts will not get a period of time in which to correct their positions, because it won't be "we are rolling again at x00 stores a week"
Things will jump in chunks, and alongside additional stores, will be additional SKU's appearing in stores, and online.
Now the SP has remained in this range, having not priced in the Rhino Marketing tie-up, not priced in the Viridian tie up and not priced in or understood the non-linear rollout, nor the TFN product announcement.
I would imagine stores going from the previously announced 2500 towards 10,000 in a short period of time, alongside new products being in those stores, alongside an IR drive in the USA... to put quite the squeeze on any short positions.
To put in context, being in 2,500 stores with 5-6 SKU's (3 flavours of CBD chew pouch, and either the 2 CBD Isolate Smokes or those + Hemp Smokes) is one thing. Being in 2,500 stores with 8-9 SKU's (The TFN pouches in one strength being added) is practically the same as a 50% uplift in stores from the original distribution deal(s).....
It's just a waiting game...
I'm sure Vas only posts his bizarre ramblings to push informative posts off the front page
Ragged, don't forget the speed limit is different in different states so surely that will have an affect!!!!