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FFCmenber ......LOL LOL
The more I think about it the more convinced I am that after a few good nights sleep next week I’m going to enjoy my porridge!!!!
I doubt many of us have any experience as a judge or such legal proceedings so any speculation/opinion is really irrelevant.
Just have to wait and see - we've waited long enough anyway
What's astounded me is that I thought judge Preska had everything she needed to make a judgement today, I thought that was the whole point in waiting for a week and a half !!! Then why didn't she get everything she needed last week to make the judgment today, I'm more annoyed at the judge than anyone else , I guess that's the way these things play out in court, it's not a wonder if takes years and with huge sums of money to get a decision on basic arguments and judgements. And the biggest laugh of all Argentina could have purchased the whole case for $15 million 5 years ago LOL.
Judge Preska knows this is a winning case for burford, but she has to be seen to explore all the facts surrounding it, or any appeal might say yes we should explore all the facts first, and Argentina's lawyers know this, the pandemic would naturally slow down any fact finding investigations, and you can bet your bottom dollar Argentina will make sure witnesses get delayed
, evidence gets delayed for as long as humanly possible/ pandemic excuses. Sick, ill , and missing person's.
Carry on court proceedings comes to mind, LOL.
CHEERS EVERYONE
Well if we are going to get a multi bagger here I guess it was never going to be painless !!!! lol
Looks to me like she's just saying she hasn't considered every point of Argentina's application, which is required to avoid looking like it's dismissed out of hand, and reducing grounds to appeal.
gave his opinion, then the judge states -
Loretta Preska: "There are arguments presented by Argentina that even I have not given my opinion."
So who know!
Many thanks swrg
- OPINION - Judge Preska shows that she is more inclined to accept the opinion of the Government and the YPF. We will see.
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Thanks! the complete transcript is way more helpful.
We will just have to wait till Monday.
Translation of twitter feed for those interested.
In minutes the meeting begins YPF, Argentina, Burford Capital and Judge Loretta Preska.
For the first time, I hear Judge Preska's voice.
Burford Capital: "Argentina is playing 'Groundhog Day'. They seek to repeat arguments that were previously mentioned indefinitely. We have already been in trial for 5 years."
Loretta Preska: "It was my fault that I accepted the argument of the Appropriate Forum without considering all the arguments together"
Argentina: "It is necessary to make Discovery about the applicability of the Argentine Law in this case that we accept to be in the US"
Argentina: "We want to be practical. There is no rush. Let us do our Discovery, not Burford Capital's."
Argentina: "We cannot send lawyers to Buenos Aires to make Discovery because the borders are closed."
Burford Capital: "Let's not blame COVID-19 for the impossibility of making Discovery. Argentina always seeks to delay all the trials it faces in this Court."
Loretta Preska: "We must evaluate each argument that Argentina presents. The question is whether we can do it in the way that Burford Capital proposes it or in the way that the country proposes it."
Burford Capital: "We do not want the opinion of experts on the arguments presented by Argentina. We have already gone through that stage. It is time to continue with this case."
Loretta Preska: "Argentina wants 'Expert Discovery' while Burford Capital wants 'Fact Discovery'"
Argentina: "Our arguments, if accepted by the Court, show that they can end this case in our favor."
Argentina: "Burford Capital proposes to open the doors and carry out the kind of extensive Discovery that is impossible now in Argentina because of COVID-19".
Burford Capital: "Argentina proposes a Discovery personalized to its objectives. We want to continue with the correct process of the Court and begin a Discovery of facts".
- OPINION - Judge Preska shows that she is more inclined to accept the opinion of the Government and the YPF. We will see.
Loretta Preska: "There are arguments presented by Argentina that even I have not given my opinion."
Burford Capital: "If Argentina and YPF think they have arguments to end the trial today, do so."
Loretta Preska: "Wait for my decision between today and Monday."
END OF HEARING.
Courtesy of Urbanbadger on Advfn
Good afternoon TWT thank for that , is there a way to translate ? sorry if it's obvious but I can't see it
That’s the same as saying to Argentina to put up or shut up, she’s obviously saying she’s not entertaining Argentina’s delaying tactics, and saying she’s pushing ahead without delay on Monday,
Cheers TWT
judgement made by Monday
Sebastian seems to be in the conference and is tweeting ..
Judge says - If Argentina and YPF think they have arguments to end the trial today, do so
https://mobile.twitter.com/SebastianMaril