BT Share Chat (BT.A)

sell lloyds as they will drop again, keep bt for 5g ( 18 months tops) and try to sell around 250p
Fusion98

I try and take profits often. If in doubt, you can always sell a portion and hold a portion. I sold some of my Lloyds this week and a some BT also. Always good to have a bit of cash to buy at opportune moments. If the deal is rejected Saturday, we may well see a big dip at open Monday. But then again, we may not!

I agree with IWEB. Pretty cheap - (£5 per transaction if frequent trader). Only problem is extra charges for stop losses etc and only allows you a few minutes of use without closing down and as evonybob says not much use for research but other free sites available.

Hola Lewis. iweb seems cheap, research function not great though or i am using it wrong. No holding fees/charges is a bonus, but crashes sometimes. On the whole, simple to use and all I need.

One other thing. What site do people use to trade? I have used AJ Bell (YouInvest) since starting and dont really have any issues with it just didn't know if i was missing a trick with a cheaper / better alternative.

It could be worse..
I also hold BT and LLoyds
Bought BT at 300, then 265 then 200... then 180. My break even point with dividends re invested is around 230 so just hoping it gets close to that so i can sell up and move swiftly on.

Bought Lloyds at 70 ish. Mainly for dividend income as the share hadn't fluctuated too much in the last 5 years. But then obviously just as i bought them they dropped 20p each !

Things are looking slightly better at present but i can only envy your more positive position. I would see where BT goes once/if reaches 210 and keep a close eye on it.

Take profits everytime

Velo what would you do?

I initially bought BT at 203 with the intention of selling at 215 they subsequently went down I then bought a second lot at 180.3. I am now wondering if I should not be greedy and sell now rather then wait until 215. I also bought Lloyds at 52.5 and the at 51.4. I am not sure what to do.

The problem with just relying on a dividend payment here is what if the dividend gets cut? The debt is not small and at some time BT (openreach) will upgrade the lines at a great cost, so where is that money to come from?

"The system throttles itself via a cloud operated system" So you're saying the system throttles due to bandwidth imitations on the backhaul network and by resetting the local connection, it resets the algorithm for that particular connection?

This isn't a fault condition, it is system design and is commonly used in VOIP and Data networks for Traffic Policing, or Traffic Shaping for Bandwidth Limitation.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Traffic_policing_(communications)

https://www.routerfreak.com/traffic-policing-vs-traffic-shaping/

Areed faultsman,kinda what I had in mind.

The system throttles itself via a cloud operated system, there is no "they" involved, the only thing the service provider can do is reset your line and refresh your BB, it will then gradually pulse up and down over a set period to determine its best stable running parameters, if its dropped low they will reset a few times if you complain, they do the reset to give the illusion its repaired,in the hope you will go away, all good until it stabilises at a low speed again, they do this to avoid sending an engineer and registering a fault that they may need to compensate for.

Thank you for helping him NDN. Of course they don’t ‘throttle it until someone complains’, they’ll be denials of the moon landing coming next. There presumably was a fault in the exchange that was cleared. I ‘moved’ from BT to plusnet a few months back. Speed’s around the same (about 30mb) but it’s a much more consistent service. I would think the difference is because it’s a newer hub rather than about the network.

Glad to be of service.....

negotiating terms agreed in principle re brexit - just been on reuters - that is what has happened - anyone short on bt over the last few days had better start making some phone calls pdq - this baby is going north big time -
dyor etc

What could have happened in the last 30 minutes to send it up 6p ?? Checked the graph and nearly had a heart attack. Or maybe its a fault on the system? Or maybe its Hong Kong hacking the stock exchange in preparation to take over.. Who knows.

Back up to approx 15 now so alls normal,I imagine they super throttle everyone until they notice to be quite honest.

Just spoke to them etc NDN,and they said theyve just refreshed my line(aka put me on hold for 5 minutes and gone for a smoke)and give it 45 minutes and see how I get on.
My router is 8 foot from my computer with no walls in between.

OK if thats the case then there may be a fault on the line or with the equipment. Have you investigated it with them ? Is that using a speed test website or by logging into the router to see what speed it is actually connected to the exchange at. It could be connected at 16mbs but only passing to a device via WiFi at a lower speed, you could check this if you have a device connected to the router by its Ethernet sockets. If you feel you are only getting 4mbs, what speed to they say you should get.

I live right on the exchange and normally have had 16mbp for the last 4 odd years I now have 4mbp!,surely plusnet cant throttle that much?

OK lets try to assist you. From t&c for Plusnet unlimited fibre, FBroadband speed is described as 'average download speed of 10Mb' as it is based on speed available to at least 50% of customers at peak time (8 - 10pm). Your actual speed will be dependent on your location, phone line, home wiring, wifi connection and time of day. Speeds vary by location. Check your speed via 'check availability' on our home page.
Also from t&c Even though our network won't slow down noticeably at peak times (between 8pm and 10pm), some specific websites or downloads might.
This means that they need to throttle there network in periods of high demand, most likely due to there Backhaul bandwidth serving an exchange. So say Backhaul is 100Mbps and it has 100 customers connected to it, they need to share that out evenly to all that are using at any time, could be 100 or 27 it changes all the time. Its a bit more complicated than this simple example but gives you an idea in simple terms how it works. Think of it as an escalator, at any one time it can only transport a maximum number of people, so there is a backlog at the start if there to many of them. Also there could be a physical issue with the line that may cause problems as well, could be getting worse over time if it has water ingress .

It so wants to break the £2 mark.

I know that NDN,but I've been with a different provider every year for yonks and all give same performance as they all come off the same line,the buffering I'm experiencing is weird and must be the same with the other networks that feed my cul de sac.
Cant say I'm overely bothered as I'm rarely here,yet I may have to stay a month as I need to go back into hospital soon and recover up here etc.

Plusnet is a company owned by BT group, its products are its own and not BTs products. They have there own independent network and terminating equipment in BT exchanges, where they interface with Openreach to provide service to the end user via Openreach's local network. At the end user there is a Plusnet router to provide connectivity.
On 30 January 2007, Plusnet was acquired by BT Group, but it continues to operate as a separate business.
you have a Plusnet product in the same way you had a TalkTalk product delivered over the Openreach network, a BT group company.
If you owned a Skoda then you have a Skoda product not a VW product even though they are part of the VW group of companies.

oh dear,you said buy a BT product and I know I did.,,hence trying to decipher your posts is trying at the bes of times.