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Don't know you mojo because I long ago stopped reading the BP board, but I agree with a lot of what you say. I have been standing up to bullies on other boards these past few weeks and it's a pointless task, except it does infuriate them. You can almost feel the heat coming out of their ears. Trouble is, by attacking them, you can become the bully yourself when they start crying.
As a "quarterly dividend investor" I have noticed that over the past year, more and more traders are using these companies with the aim of gaining dividends, and trying not to lose more capital than the dividend. Companies that hardly ever make a move are now traded a few weeks before the ex-dividend date and straight after. It is working for the traders because we have been in a rising market. It won't work in a falling market. They will lose exactly what they gained in dividends, or more.
But, yes, I have been told to invest in cash ISA's by the bullies. Nasty little people sat at their keyboards because they are anonymous. For a long time I have looked at it like they (and myself) are all cartoon characters. Absolute jokes, losers. Droopy, Huckleberry Hound - I've come across the lot. Just laugh at them mate, and concentrate on yourself.
No one's been attacked here. Trying to make some one a bully for no reason, not cool. Stock didn't agree with mojo about casino and started with saying mojo was impatient, mojo then somewhat started to make it more personal wording if anything and told stock to drop it , yet continued to not drop it himself. Just a simple case of both wanted last word, however this is a forum and it's all opinions, don't see anyone being horrible and they can disagree if they want. Just got to learn when to move on. I hope you don't leave mojo and hope things cool down, I personally appreciate both your comments.
Now to throw my meaningless opinion in!
Personally I agree with mojo, there is definitely a lot more retailers using methods of trading that they shouldnt and it would have an impact, and people are treating it like a casino. However i agree with stock I don't believe it is anywhere near the extent that it's having meaningful swings on the FTSE 100. I am of the opinion that retailers cause some moves, but only small. It's still the big boys that really cause the meaningful movements and it's a lot of things combined together. I also personally think that the recent drop was mainly due to inflation BS and changing exchange rates and other things, quad w would have impacted, but to a big degree? I personally don't think so.
Hope everyone here has a great weekend.
Who said you can't share your view?!
But misleading people with poisonos comment misleading people and none of them backed up with any FACTS like FTSE100 companies are played like Casino style is utter nonsense
Do you think that should be encouraged!!
If people think that is nice then follow that road and see where that ends!! Truly disaster i say.
But appreciate you have shared your thought
All views are welcome and after all my response was also a view but I was challenging the factual content and motives.
Been reading this board for a while and got on with everyone, not sure it is healthy to tolerate any comments without questioning the authenticity and facts. That is all I did.
Mojo, shame your going but understand why. I stopped posting for the same reason. A forum where you can't share your views and reasons for your views without being attacked.
The board will be less balanced without you.
Good luck with your investments
My apologies to everyone
I am sorry if couldn't sit and watch nonsense being thrown out in this board by someone who seems to be following certain motives of poisoning this board with none factual rubbish.
I said what was needed to be said from my side only and no offence meant to anyone here whatever your strategy or views are on this share...whethere you sell or buy or do nothing is your decision , is your money and all respected but we got to exchange views based on certain maturity and facts not nonsense backed up with nothing.
Have a nice day everyone
Please don't play the inecient here..
You were here with your constant negativities on this board
People were getting fed up with your posionos nonsense , , not back up with anything! Absolutely zero facts, so it is good you are going and please don't come back.
People are not here to listen to anyone to buy or sell and will set to lose loads of money if they do that; specially if they were listening to your nonsense.
People should always do their own research and i am confident most people here doing that anyway and don't need your advice on that.
Why do you even think people were listing to your silly comments ? because you think you have call the recent of 5% small drop ? and now you are out throwing poisonos utter rubbish comments about how things are played here, and stupid comment like Casino style play! which simply showed me you know nothing about any of your investment! Or how things work here.
Take your last so called "word of wisdom" somewhere else, who do you think you are to even offer a word of wisdom to fine people here who they are intelligent enough to be here in first place without a need to read your utter silly childish comments.
Invest in cash ISA, and enjoy your 2% return, shares are not for you mate.
Apologies to everyone on this board who’s woken up to this nonsense I can no longer waste my time posting here. It’s clear these boards are toxic the minute you share a contrarian view. Even when you present facts and are show the proof the delusion continues. I’ve never posted here to be a guide to anyone’s investment, never advised anyone to do what I do.
So a word of caution those who endless say buy buy buy and sell sell sell are not your friend. Bernie Madoff probably said the same things to his clients before he ruined their lives. My last bit of wisdom to impart make your own calls don’t be a sheep leaders do not follow. Even if your decision seems mad and everyone is against you.
Own your own success and failure.
Wishing you good health and good luck this is my last message here.
Mate seriously shut up you’re on my filter list know if people want to listen to your nonsense they’re welcome I hope they like listening to fairy tales. You’re pathetic and couldn’t even admit when you’ve called it wrong last week grow up.
And this is what happens when the lloy’d crowd join the BP board. Lloyd worst board Iv come across full of people to clever for there own good. It doesn’t take a genius to state oil price is up and the share price is going up in a bull market. VOLATILITY VOLATILITY VOLATILITY
Your post lack absence of knowledge about your investment or any clear strategies, I start even doubting why you are invested in BP the first place, ?!
you are in and out every week and seems like you are after making a quick buck and honeslty investment is not for you mate,
If you invested for 2 years and talking about being patient and yet just nagging with negativities and how slow this share is moving etc, have you forgotten we had the unprecedented time which have no seen for centuries and you are complaining why things are slow here!
and now you think 4 or 5% drops here means something disaster happening with BP just because you are out and all of this while the oil price is almost to the roof and BP is printing cash from the source to the pump and will make even more in coming months.!!
BP. will go up not because it is cheap at the moment but because it has a strong fundamentals which is only getting stronger at this current point of times and what is projected ahead.
If tomorrow another covid type comes out and the world shut down I will change my view but today from vaccine side to productions to economy to oil price, demands all are to BP favour very strongly indeed
But of course not for you which is fine, so move on mate and play somewhere else which is making you money and not involve Casino style influence
Like your ISA cash saving and enjoy your 2% return
Seems now you are becoming desperate to twist facts!!
Please quote where in my post i said BP is cheap and must go up!
Is it how desperate you are?
I throw loads of reasons for my investment here and why I think will go up and you just created a lie because I pick on your silly statment !?
At least quote me right mate
Don't make up lies and untrue statment which is your imagination and not how I think.
Think about it and your Casino statment again and for now keep your head under the snow
I think the guy does get basically what I said
I said the “markets” have become like casinos every major index because both retail and professional investors have products which allow them to over leverage positions in effect causing high volatility due to speculation. The term speculation is used when it comes to gambling take a hint.
If you want a prime example what caused the financial crisis ? Oh over-leveraged home owners who speculated on property prices continuing to rise!
Get a grip man seriously who cares what I do or my position. If you want to be the centre of attention on bp go ahead it brings me no financial gain either way. Also being a 22 year “vet” I’m surprised by your posts they lack any logic other than “this is cheap this should go up”
Still laughing hahaha
I always love it when people say surly your not implying that buys and sells have a influence on a ftse share.. that is what your implying ?
Well do you think any buys or sells have a impact on the share value ? How do you think the day to day share price is determined at the most basic level? Hahaha surly it’s nothing to do with what people are prepared to pay for it I.e. trades OMG HAHAHA SORRY
Oh and when I say Casino like I’m not referring to the risk elements as there isn’t all that much risk attached to blue chip.. I refer to people expect casino like returns and that in turn I’d say causes volatility which has changed the market. This is why long term investors such as mojo may want out?
I love the new norm btw..
Razu leave it this guy won’t learn man he takes things out of context. I bet he never even heard of Nathaniels Rothschild market manipulation battle of Waterloo look up the history there my friend. Honestly ****es me off but not worth it just wants attention.
Razu - "We are not saying that the ftse has been casino like for 20 years" . . . who's we?
"most people understand that it has become casino like post covid" . . . what exactly do you mean?
Surely you're not trying to say that retail investors have any influence on the day to day movement of ftse100 company share prices, are you?
You mention 22 years!! We are not saying that the ftse has been casino like for 20 years. I assure you, most people understand that it has become casino like post covid with the influx of retail traders and Reddit guys and Robin Hood traders if you think any different mate ?! I dunno you need to adapt to the reality it will help you. As always GLA to everyone and may all your trades be fruitful!!!
You are actually spreading misinformation that I never heard of doing this for the past 22 years!!
Calling FTSE100 played like CASINO style is truly a childish statment and I honesly don't care who else supported this rather silly statment, it is an absolute nonsense.
Sorry to be blunt,
I wish you best of luck if you sre putting your money in the saving account bank or somewhere much safer which is not casino style play like your saving ISA
And please don't tell me funds or trusts because ultimately they are financial markets like FTSE and they are played like casino according to you. So why investing at all, all of these people who are making millions of $$ they are either stupid or they don't know yet they just been so lucky and why!
So going round the circle doesn't help you coming out of this one
I know you mean well mate but statment like this is really not right nor fair to others here who some might believe this rather silly (putting it politely) comment
Wish you all the best
There is a casino element of gambling here of course. But we gamble on the side we consider is weighted in our favour. Investing is essentially gambling intelligently. I would not bother being adversarial; this is not a personal thing. Let's keep interpersonal stuff for the boyos on penny stocks boards that call each other 'shipmates'.
Seriously stock ready stop I'm not the basis of this forum lol. If you've kept up with the grape vine you'd know I bought on Friday at 3.14 because my target was 3.11 and that was because the difference in GBP/USD( I posted it here if you need proof). Seriously for your own sanity let it go my view of the stock market being treated as a casino is shared by many in both the boards and professional trading. I said long ago the stock market is akin to a Ponzi scheme if you can't see it oh well continue to be a believer in fairy tales and fiat currency too. Only reason I chose to respond to your comment is that you're spreading misinformation I never said I was out in the post today I said I'm going to be out after H2. Again I reiterate please stop you're doing yourself no favours you were already proved wrong this week. Hold bp for 2 years or 500p it doesn't really matter to me wish you all the success and good luck.
I never suggested that you said anything about AIM
This was my example to say if you want to talk about CASINO style trading influence then you can say that about AIM but not FTSE100 companies where huge institutional investors pension funds investing money day and day out and buy in million and sometimes billions there is no casino or fake doing here whatsoever
All buy and sold base on their potentials, fundamentals , sentiment, news driven of the market, fluidity, and current and projected balance sheet there is no casino or fake play involve in FTSE and to even suggest something like that to me is truly very misguiding to new investors.
There is no single institution Alone which can influence FTSE100 companies movement because they are sold/bought by big guys who are trusted with people pensions funds and people assets
So really not sure what is this comparison of FTSE100 to CASINO like style actions.
Regarding my views of 500 for BP. that is driven by many reasons which we all discussed here before, dept coming down, larger cash flow, oil price going up, core asset focus, green plays, economy picking up, demand/supplies, potential divi increase,
This is nothing to do with anything else or what I like or don't like ; this is my view based on facts on the grounds and I always said I am a long termer and I never swing play this on weekly basis.
So the reason I added loads more on Friday because I believe in this share but I wish you best of luck whatever you decide doing but you being out and now coming here to call FTSE100 played like casino style absolutely makes no sense to me I am sorry about that.
All the best
I really don't get where you're coming from never have I ever recommended aim trading if you read my previous posts I've always said I'm a ftse 100 investor unless some how ULVR BHP AAL and RIO are aim. You seem to be twisting my words. Razu even said that I've said 5-10% returns is the norm. Your posts come across as you're trying to put your words in my mouth and extremely delusional. You're the one looking for the big gains on here 500p equates to almost 70% return from these levels. I meanwhile am looking for a modest 10%. I sense a bit of a green eye here after my quad call you need to stop the ramping it's becoming sad and embarrassing any one with a brain cell can see this. Accept you were wrong and move on I will not comment any further.
Disagreed completely mate
There is no casino style movement happening here
People still make money and doing good trade if you pick a right share and be patient
There is no fast track
Unless you want to GAMBLE with AIM and lose your money as many done and many also made good money too.
But I stick with FTSE 100 or 250 at the moment