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That's fine we will leave it and move on.
Well Loudspeaker is an ex-firefighter and he has been more than forthcoming on the subject so I have to disagree there.
Ok we will let it drop then. You did ask for information on the fire subject and got very few answers from Brigade personnel, for very good reason.
Bill - I am afraid that I am not interested in any private, secret or inside information.
Alfa with the greatest respect not not all the information I have can be discussed in public here.
Bill with the greatest of respect any information that I can let you have can be discussed in public here.
I agree and that's why I asked Alfacomp to ring me on this subject.
When I first joined Birmingham fire brigsde in 1974 our Bible was the 1947 fire precautions act. Transgressing through the fire precautions act 1971 and the fire safety act 2005.
It has has always taken a disaster to change legislation at a terrible price to human life..
I remember on training school being shown a film of the Sao Paulo high rise tragedy in Brazil
A haunting experience.
We were assured that this situation could never happen in the UK with our high rise flats as our building regulations ensured that each flat was designed and built in strict regulations to contain the fire which prevented the spread into neighbouring flats, and the external staircase was a place of comparative safety.
Well we all know what happened at Grenfell.
You would be amazed how the perfect recipe for disaster manifests it self when least expected.
Looking through all correspondence posted today about Cleve Hill trying to be fast tracked through planning without any guidance on the risks a lithium ion battery of that size could pose I would be a very concerned resident.
The article (with comments section.... no login required...... wink wink :-) )
https://www.favershameye.co.uk/post/cleve-hill-batteries-included
Plus lease deal available plus recycling...
Wink wink...
Thanks Bella
So the Hive + Cellcube link already exists!
They obviously recognise the best technology for the job when they see it!
With the V price lower than at the time of that piece then the economics will stack up even more so now.
Interesting find Bella! Very good read.
Somebody needs to go and see procurement quickly... Maybe the new Avalon/Redt guys will have a word... Aren't RedT working with Hive?
A must read article kn view of discussions on here today...
https://www-favershameye-co-uk.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/www.favershameye.co.uk/amp/cleve-hill-batteries-included?amp_js_v=a2&_gsa=1&usqp=mq331AQCKAE%3D#aoh=15799681481588&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&_tf=From%20%251%24s&share=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.favershameye.co.uk%2Fpost%2Fcleve-hill-batteries-included
'In Kent, the largest solar power plant ever proposed in the UK is under consideration for approval by the government in the coming few months. The Cleve Hill solar farm will occupy the north coast of Kent and, if built, provide up to 350MW of generating capacity. It is designed to generate the lowest cost of electricity in the UK network without the need for subsidies to stay afloat. The project is a joint venture by Hive Energy Ltd and Wirsol Energy Ltd and will include battery storage capacity, giving operators the option of storing energy when the price of electricity is low and selling when it’s high.'
https://eandt.theiet.org/content/articles/2020/01/corporate-greenwashing-core-beliefs-or-virtue-signalling/
The posts here this weekend underline the impact (for me) that BMN's leasing model could have, and that we could/should be on the doorstep of something vast.
'Where the h3ll do we get vanadium?' - 'How much does it cost?'
It seems that Flow batteries are undeniably better for stationary applications, I'm yet to find any information to the contrary and if I understand this with average intelligence and specialising in unrelating fields, then anyone can.
I know I'm stating the obvious for those reading here; but Bushveld making this cost attractive will take its share of the market.
Cutting corners is only done to save money and time, if the VRFB option is there and the facts properly presented then who in there right mind will go in another direction? We can only hope (as LS said earlier) that the rules are implemented as a pre-emptive measure rather than a regretful one.