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Cast your mind back to football games 15 years ago... they didnāt even have the players real names, clubs names etc Things change, now you can equip the players with branded boots ffs.
With GTA there are opportunities for the developer to utilise advertisements which are appropriate they have full control over what is displayed and what is not. I wouldnāt bet against them adding more realism to the series Over the next few releases.
MMOs like the Final Fantasy series and Period games like Kingdom Come Deliverance are likely more challenging than GTA.
Can't see BIDS within the Grand Theft Auto world - a major highlight of GTA is the satirical nature of the game and the fact each city is effectively located within an alternative universe. For example Facebook is referred to as LifeInvader. I see no scope at all for real-world ads.
Calamari, many used to say the same about allowing crash dynamics in racing games as the car manufacturers did not want their models to appear damaged, no longer factor.
I think there are some things that people think are a shoe in for Bidstack that won't happen, but many creative uses of in game placement and advertising will be utilised that have not even been imagined yet.
logo`s on clothing?
Can`t see a brand being damaged just because their billboard is shown within a broken landscape, it would bring more authenticity to a war torn image.
As a gamer myself this is the real interesting part for me and I believe that ads can be introduced cleverly to a number of different gaming genres. As Calamari says GTA is basically trying to replicate a real-world setting so it would be extremely easy in this case to introduce ads into one of the world's biggest gaming franchises and again improve the realism of the environment for gamers rather than detracting from the experience.
Obviously for sports games the advertising element is easy because pitchside advertising actually exists in a real world context so replicate this space within a game and you only add to making it a more real immersive experience.
As you say the difficulty is bringing this to other genres of gaming. This I believe is where the brands can get creative to produce adverts that specifically relate to where they are appearing.
One thought I had on seeing the introduction of an outdoor cinema in the new fortnite map was that maybe there would be events like the live music event with Marshmello where an actual film could be shown there including adverts prior to the film. Audience of 10.7 million watched the DJ Marshmello event so major revenue to be made if the above happens.
Great point Bones, thinking outside the box.
Thats why James assembled such a plethora of big brains...and Bids vision is why they agreed to join.
I agree smithy, as a gamer myself I also wondered about this as well. But I could definitely see advertising as part of a game. I do think that bidstack need to get past adverts that would normally be there as well adverts like in grid or football manager. In fortnite or any of the dystopian style games I could imagine old broken billboards, signs on a wall or trashed lorries with company logo on the side. It doesn't need to look all shinny and new for the advert to work.
The guy said he wasnt deramping.. then listed 6 reasons why bids wouldn't work (or significant obstacles) then states hes not a holder ... then asks for how the adverts work...
Then calls me sarcastic... not true, just an observation
Calamari no body ignores Bob or anybody else on this board all are entitled to there opinion
Watch this smithy this has got Bidstack adverts
https://youtu.be/fdFLqkYtRyA
Are there any picture samples etc, would be interested to see how advert would actually blend into a game! Iām made a post over on Redditās gaming sub to try and get other people thoughts running on the idea of bidstack as a whole!
Smithy this is I am really glad that you brought this up and I think this is exactly why in-game advertising would work. The idea is that it would be seamlessly integrated into the game with graphics that are befitting of the genre. A point which has been missed by many is product placement is massive in films, BIDS offers this on a much bigger platform.
This isn't all about in-game advertising boards BIDS has so much more to offer the advertiser than that, if the only thing on offer was virtual advertising space I wouldn't have bothered. This gives the advertiser the ability to put their products in games not just their logo.
And again like I said Iām not being negative just giving my view, no need to get sarcastic!
So good of you to help us out smithy88 .. sure bidstack group will glad of your advice!
Iām not being negative or deramping, I see bids idea as a smart and interesting one, but being a gamer myself for the past 12 years, the big boy title such as call of duty, fallout franchise, battlefield etc just wouldnāt fit in with in game advertising, players would not be happy, todayās player base is a very large and vocal one and if thereās something they donāt like they will the developer know, plus the message gets across quick with platform such as twitch etc! For example have a look at fallout 76, take a look at the sort of environment the player is in, advertising doesnāt belong as it takes away that post apocalyptic feel! And as for fortnight, they are not the most popular with parents giving 70% player base is under the age of 15, advertising to kids probably wouldnāt go down good either, plus apex legends has taken most of the 18+ aged market! Just my thought not even invested here just giving a gamers point of view on in game advertising
Not negative but remember they will have their own bugs to sort out without adding a third party platform integration into the mix. I fully expect flagship titles to feature these adverts but there is such a thing as scaling in.
People arenāt going to inject their golden goose with growth hormone without first testing it on a big standard chicken are they?
Be realistic, stay honest, be patient and great things will happen.l but it wonāt be overnight.
Regarding Ā£1 by Christmas you may laugh but nobody knows where this is going.
Ā£1 by Christmas sounds good to me... amazing how quickly this outfit moves with the right news and a driven tailwind
Ride the waves
Lol it was Ā£1 by Christmas not so long ago!! What happened?
Whilst I thought that the launch would be a good time to integrate the ads if the testing etc is still ongoing then I agree that it's much better to get it right before implementing. Plenty of space in the game for ads to be put in later down the line and remember Fortnite is a game that has an update every 3 months so nice and easy to put in if they do go down that road.
I think we're all invested here because we see the potential and get excited by the possibilities so of course there is going to be speculation.
Good news is that whilst we were all concentrating on Fortnite yesterday, Football Manager 2020 release date was announced for the 19th November :D
That's what I was looking for as well, although I kind of disagree about when to introduce the adverts. Feel like if they changed it at a later date people would notice more and be more likely to complain about it. But maybe you are right. Doesn't matter I'm "inthegame" now and won't be selling. I may top up more if it drops through 18p as well.
Come on guys get real... would you launch your flagship title with a brand new never used before tech to masses of hyper critical teenage fans? I am not the most risk adverse person in the world and that would make me wince a bit.
I would be much more tempted to switch it on once I had worked out my own bugs.
Donāt get me wrong, if they do launch with it they are much braver than me and would speak volumes about their trust in the tech and team but from a technical standpoint it would be a massive risk.
Personally what I am looking for are advertising places intentionally positioned to accept an advert where one is not currently displayed. That will provide me with more comfort than anything else.
Plenty of places for ads to sit even a football stadium with empty billboards and a petrol station. Why would they not have adverts?...
Hivedoff, BIDS didnāt just put #getinthegame, they put
āTime to #getinthebgameā
Itās about time they got into some games to stop this slide in sp!
Iāll be honest Iām a tad concerned if nothing in fortnite.
Itās a free game, with some one we have supposedly collaborated with. Would have thought it be relatively simple to slip immersive ads into the game.