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Hi Dan - 99% of my posts here are in response to someone else, the other 1% (like the last one below) when a thought occurs. No compulsion involved (unless you count the compulsion to responded when addressed, which I think most of us have). Cheers!
Thank you Matt. I wish I'd listened to your warnings earlier. However, we are where we are. However, you seem to have a bit of an obsession with this company. I have 'lost' a fair bit with my investment here but even then I am not obsessed. Why the compulsion?
Probably also worth mentioning that the debt which was rolled from last year now matures at the end of this month, so expect some form of announcement imminently!
*BTB
Ah, but is it a corpse BTM, or is it a going concern which will rise phoenix-like from the ashes with a zillion backhaul contracts, pay back the debt, re-list, and make all the minority shareholders multi-millionaires.....?
(Spoiler alert - it is in fact a corpse....;-) )
Oh stop it you two. Here we are on the verge of a significent breakthrough - they publish accounts (and fudge another going concern claim), or do not publish accounts and declare the end. Meanwhile all you two can do is bicker. Not nice over the corpse of Avanti is it?
For disclosure I am long on AVN (100,000). Why I ask myself?
I didn't say I that I didn't resort to name calling. I simply said this was only upon provocation. Hence 'pea brain came after 'moron'. Now I admit my first post was cheeky, but it was supposed to be more of a tease, hence the ;-) at the end. I would suggest your response upped the ante and (perhaps mistakenly) I dived down to your level. I am trying to be a bit better behaved now. BTW, that wasn't our first conversation, so I would politely point out that your post is actually the factually incorrect one, but I won't 'name call' you on that one - just an honest mistake on your part.
And sorry to disagree with your knowledge of 'economics' but if the share is worthless, your economic interest is zero, the same as mine. However, if you're still struggling with this, shall we say 'financial interest'. Perhaps that makes it clearer?
Again, I have to pick you up on your understanding of the english language. Posting something provocative or cheeky, does not imply that the person is moronic. I can assure you that I suffer from no intellectual shortcoming thanks. Yet still you call me that. Like I say, it means you've lost the argument. Looking forward to your reply as ever - make it a good one!
Oh and one last thing.. is decent person who mentions name calling would usually not respond in the same way. Stinks of being a follower not a leader. Go back to your posts which you seem to like to refer to when it's in your interest..:
Kpatel - don't you get it pea brain
A post from you for reference, one of many name calling I hasten to add.
Oh and my economic interest here is clearly greater than yours as an investor in this company. That's just common sense.
I'll keep this short because you are becoming attached to me and clearly lying and when people lie all my respect if any vanishes quickly.
I was having a conversation with Tyche in May 21 which quite frankly had nothing to do with you and was a genuine attempt to understand the position of this company whom I had not kept fully up to date with. Anyhow, you decided to open an exchange with me starting with this:
Kpatel - Nice to that you are still living in your fluffy world of of self-delusion, but it might be time to wake up now....;-)
Very constructive as ever. Was I to expect anything less? No. Of note, I'd never had an exchange with you prior to this so a great way to open a conversation with another member on the board.
So I'm not sure what you were to expecting after this other than to be called a moron which based on the above holds true. I think you owe me an apology for your mislaid facts and frank lies.
I believe you referred to me as having a 'small brain' - not name calling for you then?
Whilst I did (admittedly, to my detriment) use sarcasm ultimately, most of my original posts on this Board were absolutely designed to inform and support. Guess what happened? - A flood of abusive and sarcastic posts (just because I disagreed), which is an area where (again to my detriment) I have some skill, so was happy to fight fire with fire. However, look at my posts on other stocks, I think you'll find that the vast majority are without any malice. The reason the exchange between you and I started was that in May 2021, you decided you would tell me that I was "100% wrong" on the predictions I'd posted. I'm not sure how you expected me to react to that - I mean, it's just not true is it. Regarding what I'm still doing here - well actually, responding to your posts since May, so if you want me to stop, you know what to do :-). I guess the question could be aimed back at you - your economic interest here is, after all, the same as mine - zero. Looking forward to your response, as ever.....
Unfortunately I haven't learnt anything from you as you tend to make sarcastic remarks as I'm sure I recall at the start of our dialogue. I'm sure I didn't name call you in my last post? If you have lost as an investor then instead of portraying a 'I told you so attitude' to investors here you should encourage them on a learning journey. That's the way you approach these things. I could have got out of Avanti at £3+ but allowed the small risk to run and was willing to take that risk as many investors have done before me. So before judging you need to understand the investors position and investment strategy. I think most on this board have cleared out, still have no idea why you keep returning. Like I said maybe it's best we agree to disagree. Take it easy.
Please feel free to look at the companies I post on, and you'll get an idea of (a) how diversified I am, and (b) whether I've 'lost so much'. I do agree with you that no investor get's everything right, and I've certainly made some mistakes (including AVN), but I think that the difference is, I learn from them (hence I sold AVN at £1). Incidentally, I never said the Company was bust or not operating, simply that the shareholders would be/were crushed - and even you have to admit that is exactly what happened. Also, the 'theme' on this Board you allude to is simply sour grapes - lot's of holders who resented my less than positive posts whilst the equity still had value, and who then directed their anger at me when what I predicted actually happened - predictable if illogical behaviour, but certainly not a 'theme' that shows me on a bad light (quite the opposite I would say....) And finally, if you want to be 'pleasant', how about dropping the name calling? Read this post again to discover how it's possible to make your argument without demeaning the other person. There you go - another thing I've taught you - you're welcome! ( :-)) )
Hehe.. I wouldn't say this is interacting with you in a financial investing sense. It's more demeaning you and your incessant need to post on a company you supposedly have no financial interest in. Me coming back is justifiable as you said I've made the mistake and am still invested. But you, no idea other than you've lost so much you're trying to get your kicks out of others on the board who are still invested. Seems to be a theme based on other peoples opinions on you here. And again, as I've mentioned numerous time but your small brain struggles to cope - a small percentage of my portfolio in speculative stocks allows me to let them run instead of trying to trade in and out. Avanti are still operating as far as I'm aware so you missed the beat on this no? I don't expect to see any return on investment here but as I've said I am happy to admit when I've made a bad investment and I also know no honest investor hasn't. Anyhow, let's leave it on a pleasant tone and agree to disagree on our opinions. I'm sure the board are sick of it as am I. Good luck with your investing journey.
:-) Quote: '..one thing I've learnt is interacting with prunes like you is not productive on any level' yet you keep responding to all my messages proving that you haven't even learned the thing you profess to :-))
And ironically, if you were looking for 'accurate and honest information' on AVN, the you had to look no further than my multiple posts saying that the debt would crush the equity holders - yet you chose to ignore it. I'm not sure you understand how best to use these boards - here's a tip - just looking for people who agree with you to sustain your biases is exactly the wrong way. Feel free to keep your name calling up - just shows you've lost the argument. Look forward to your reply xx.
You continue to live up to the name MattTheFool. Hopefully this'll be the last communication I have with you. As I'm sure I've mentioned before but your squeaky little brain may not have processed it - I like yo use forums like this to discuss my higher risk/ speculative UK stocks to share knowledge on relatively smaller companies where mainstream info is hard to come by. My other stocks like Apple, Microsoft, or Nucor for example I don't need to use forums as accurate and honest information is easy to come by. But with all investing it is a learning curve and one thing I've learnt is interacting with prunes like you is not productive on any level. Get on with your life and I'll do the same. Remember you have no interest in Avanti but just hang around like a bad smell. Suits you.
So to be clear, on a bulletin Board designed for shareholders to exchange views on the shares they hold or are interested in, you are accusing me of posting on shares that I hold and am interested in, and for you, that is some form of criticism? Your approach is just to post on the dogs that you hold, but oddly not on the other 'diversified portfolio' which you (allegedly - LOL) have? You are a bit of a silly-billy, aren't you?
Lol looks like I've stuck a nerve here MattTheFool. I don't stalk peoples investment portfolios but your incessant need to post on these types of forums about all your stocks tells me all I need to know. Let's leave it as this - continue your 'diversified' investing on stock discussed on a amateur chat forum and I'll continue with my global portfolio. Good day.
blah blah. You don't have a diversified portfolio (or you'd post on more stocks), and the stocks you have been active in have all cratered. If you look at the stocks I've posted on, the story is the opposite of yours - genuine diversity and more winners than losers. Be honest with us and yourself and stop speculating your children's inheritance away.
Good research there.. sounds a bit stalker like MattThefool. It seems you may be a bit obsessed with me. So just to give you a bit more to feed on - Asos post pandemic low hit high 50s - I've taken my cost basis out plus a bit more and will let the rest run. Lloyds bank - always useful to have a banking stock and an average cost basis of high 30s suits me fine. Premier oil - again post pandemic low entry and exited fully out of this position. As you may or may not have established these stocks are speculative and risky but form part of a diversified portfolio. I spend time discussing them on this forum as they are as I said speculative so doing some due diligence is sensible. Avanti remains one I've stayed and not ashamed to admit sometimes investing you don't win them all. But fortunately if you invest smartly you take risk on these highly risky stocks with a very small percentage of your funds. What strikes me is that clearly this forum isn't the best place to get proper insight especially with fools like you hanging around a forum you supposedly have no interest in. Strikes me that maybe, although I won't be stalker you that your losses are so great you get some sick pleasure of others losses.
A large diversified portfolio eh Kpatel? Let's see what your posting history says about that shall we? Mmm, that's odd - amongst your paltry 65 posts, 90% of them seem too be on AVN. Still, there are a couple of other names there - this will be where you'll have made the money back for sure, right? Asos - oh, it's gone nowhere for 5 years and halved since the summer. What about Premier Oil then? No wait, it's been an absolute disaster, down 90% since 2018, and has even tried to recover by changing its name! Other one is Lloyds - well you certainly haven't made a fortune in that one (I know as I hold this one as well :-0). So where is this great diversified portfolio of which you speak? I'm beginning to wonder if you're telling us a little fib KP....:-)
Now, from my postings, you will see that I indeed do have a diversified portfolio, and of the 35 or so stocks I post on, I hold 32, so I'm afraid this completely negates your arguments about my posting habits, which you could have easily checked out before posting.
And as for your last comment, I have indeed learnt something - the number of clueless investors who risk their children's inheritance in tin pot shares is large, and it appears, sadly, to be growing (yet still they do not learn form their mistakes).
Lol, please don't make me laugh. Learn from you? Someone who hangs around boards he supposedly has not active investment interest in. Bad smell. Let me spell it out for you - my portfolio is well balanced with a few speculative stocks, Avanti was on of them. Being speculative means a very small portion of my portfolio is allocated to them. To make that even more clear to you just in case you're struggling Matt, if one of them performs badly my overall portfolio isn't significantly affected. That's how you invest in speculative stocks. Thanks. Hope you've learnt.
Hi has anyone actually managed to sell any of their shares since this fiasco took place?
I have a few sitting in an Isa but checking out JP jenkins no one is trading them at all. Is there a likelyhood they will even even reach anything like 5-10p per share ever again?
Petere - you're right on AVN - the point is that investors here need to learn by the experience and not make it elsewhere. One of the reasons I got out was learnings from other holdings that went wrong. Dan is clearly an investor who has learned from the AVN experience and will be a better investor for it. KPatel, tyche and many others here, sadly, have learned nothing it seems. :-(
They finally filed one of the overdue items at Companies House. Things will be easier to understand if they file their overdue accounts.
As directors, they have failed miserably in their duties and responsibilities. It is not fashion where tastes have changed, and they look to have strung people all along.
Well if we have been burned there is not a lot of mileage in selling at this price. My take is stay in for the takeover which could come ? Maybe. Look at it this way we are still above ground !