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For the more sophisticated naysayer perhaps more appropriate - a few here fit the bill !
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sealioning
Hi Wyn -if the cap fits wear it !
https://bashershandbook.blogspot.com/
vegas,
you are quite right I should double the tests if it's just the UK so as to take account of the return Journey but my assumption was to be conservative:
Will it be the Airports that will be responsible for the test or the airlines? Will AVCT be chosen exclusively throughout every airline/airport? We don't know yet.
Here are some more questions that I don't know the answers to (I can guess but I don't know: Maybe you can help?
Is there an NDA in place with AVCT and if so when did it start?
will there be a sovereign test?
Will it be AVCT?
Is operation Moonshot still going to take place?
Will the Govt order any tests from AVCT?
If yes ,How many (per month?)
What production (in test numbers) is available and in place for AVCT, domestically and internationally.
What is the profit Margin for the test for AVCT
Will any other test be used or will it be only AVCT (domestically or internationally)
What is the competition?
Now, this not to be negative, its simply to say that right now we are on the cusp but the unknowns make it impossible to qualify or quantify anything with regard to a valuation of any sort. And for goodness sake, its not just me that's asking these very basic questions, its every investment house that looks over the company. I mean, why wouldn't you?
Here's a really crap thought: Govt has taken and will take now, so much stick about the Innova test being authorised so quickly for home Use that they now have to perform due diligence on the AVCT test so as to prove they have "learnt lessons". Is that possible? Is that way off beam? Could there now be another delay to home use?
And finally timing: Short term v Long term.
Hers is an example:
just over a year ago you could have bought (and some did) AVCT stock for 202p, one day last week you could sell for 210p. Think about that. That 202p was based on a test soon to be released. When the test is released, it is the best in the world, certified for sale in the UK & the EU and the SP is less than 5% higher. the difference... Timing, the 12 months that have passed has been the key factor.
Or last dec you could have bought for 110p and in 6 months double our money.
Just for the record when it was over 200p last year the chart with the RSI was saying it was over bought and likely to fall. However I was posting in December and posted that this was good place to get in when the SP was about 107p (according to the chart.)
And if you are very long term, 10 years ago the SP was 100p and it is only due to covid that people who bought then are in profit now, and "research" did not forecast covid, they got lucky.
Timing is everything. Surely we can agree on that, so anything that might help time entry and exit could & should be very useful
Correct radiegreen
I went hygenist on Thursday and they are still cleaning manually
Ie by hand
No electrical spinny things
And for dentists and gp surgeries it will come down to whichever test is the most sensitivie to detect cv, which by a long way is AffiDX / affimers.
Same for air travel by the way. Sensitivity over specicifity.
Vegas,
Think also about dentistry and also GP surgeries.
For GP surgeries, if you have flue like symptoms LFTs will be used to quickly check and will be in place for ever from this point.
Wyn, I think the problem is most here including yourself are invested for the LFT short term which will fund everything else, but you are constantly saying the need for testing is declining and keep on about points you've been right on.
Well let me have a go,I was saying months ago about airport testing,I still believe air travel will use the best LFT on the planet
You estimated 5 million UK travellers a month,air travel is global a carrier won't use our test at Heathrow and an inferior test for the return journey
During normal times there is a million people in the air, 24 hours a day, 365 days a year, think about that, this will be huge, I think testing will become international law at airports just like the liquid ban and will be forever
Hahaha Jesus. Thanks :)
Beinthelead I feel compelled to say when you’re talking about more than one BB it should be BBs as it’s plural. Enough from me. Boring I know but can’t delete the last.
Anyway, MHRA under a lot of pressure and it’ll be interesting what Porton Down has to say. Fact is they gave a crap test EUA home use when ours is better and much easier sampling.
Over and out and thank God Eriksen has recovered.
Break 241p and you’re a millionaire... forgot the negative news bit. Guess what... rerated on positive NEWS. Not because of the chart.
Forget Chartists on BB’s. Trust the research and the time spent convincing yourself to part with your money. BB mystics are out to skew your perception of risk.
It’s easy folks, filter the pair of twats
PL - There is a new variant which causes those who are infected to post rubbish on the BB as per a classic 'basher' (see the post about a year ago which explained in great detail how these 'bashers' ply their trade). Henceforth this action will be renamed 'Bashiirs' as they are equally devious and unreliable. Instead of using the Greek alphabet the new variant will be known as TWAATs (Turtle, Windbag. A Joke, All 4 one, Turtle).
Vegas, I have been in about 12 months ago and if you read the board back then you would know that we were to have test out in July plus waste water detection plus bams. I have held on and on and on, because every month or quarter was to be the breakthrough. and tahts fine. I'm still here, and even though there have been some wild swings from late november I ignored the rhetoric, trusted the charts and have managed to increase my wealth because of it. I have always (not that any of this matters), always had a core holding ove over 40,000 shares but and at the most 78,000 shares. Now I am at a comfortable 55,000 (for me) and have significant % increases in AGL particulalrly and an ok increase in HE1 which might turn out good like here too.
I think people forget that for me this is a means to an end.
What I don't understand is why people get so defensive when I am not attacking them? Some posters seem terribly anxious to paint me as a troll or somebody or has no holding or simply here to cause mischief just because I question where the AVCT SP might be going?
Last week when it broke 241p I bought in and told everyone. Thats forgotton of course in this latest rounf of personal abuse because some here infatuated with personalities instead of focusing on the SP.
Thats ok i guess, but this is a BB to discuss the stock. And although i keep repeating, not because "I told you so" but just to remind the detractors that I have been correct in some of my assumptions regarding both the SP movements and the speed of which events have unfolded and how that has affected the market AVCT is in.
It seems for some, actually being right still does not justify having an opinion. But hey ho whatever.
I try to invest in companies where the SP is likely to go up in the quickest time by the most amount.
The AVCT SP is, after quite a few false dawns, hopefully about to deliver. And if it does then great. If it doen't then i will move the money elsewher.
Its not complicated and its not as emotional as some seem to think it is.
And his mate Dave (bottomzup) the chart says 155 pish
Oh but the chart didn't predict innovas downfall or Fridays rns
scare are you saying people that are ill with other ailments, then catch covid it doesnt finish them of prematuerly ? sorry for spelling
I work in a hospice, the people coming in with covid will not die due to covid they are people who are terminally ill and have picked it up either at hospital, nursing home, shops etc. The patients are still recorded down as dieing within 28 days of testing positive.
PAH, I’d have to go for the seal lion as it’s malicious, the baby beta is just a weirdo. Both exceptionally dull and pointless additions. I’ve never, and that’s not an exaggeration, seen a single post from them that I found interesting or contained any original thought or research. Just agenda fuelled BS from them. Constantly. The board was much better when we had a period when they didn’t post. They post to irritate and nothing else. Sad twats.
Pleased I started this thread, it’s going really well… sigh…
Most probs Wyn had a dream covid is no longer here lmao
Agreed PAH, but wyn on the same note did somebody tell you testing won't be required for much longer?
Is ok wyn you answered my question in your previous post, so not research just advice from somebody
Wyn stop spouting rubbish, the figures and news is there...covid figures is no fake news.
Wyn if you are invested why?
And if you are when did you first buy in?
of course it does ND, but I don't tend to post stuff that somebody has already posted that I agree with.
I only got into this stock because somebody convinced me it had merit and was likely to go higher.. (remember I don't care about AVCT the company, just the SP, and what might affect the SP) If I wanted to help AVCT I would sell up and send them the money to help fund their activities.
Well, PAHOO its very difficult to say how many have died from covid as opposed to with covid. Originally if you had had covid then recovered, when you died that was what put on the death certificate. So you could have it, recover, get knocked down by a bus and the DC would record covid. It was only when that was pointed out to Handjob that he changed the law on it. Even now the office of Nat Stats think maybe 25% or recorded covid deaths are "with Covid" but not from Covid". But at the same time recording the cause was changed so at just the time we needed accurate stats we made 1 Dr write it up on the DC instead of what was always 2 and they took symptoms over the phone from non-medical personal in care homes and based on what they said, and put it down as covid with no further analysis or inspection.
I am not a covid denyier by any means (or want to be) but the way we have recorded and collated this epidemic has been somewhat leaky and we are basing decisions on that data
Remember the Nightingale hospitals were never used and I have read that there was in many hospitals at the height of the crisis in the UK plenty of spare beds. (but that does not make the news, and as we know just through this latest Innova debacle, what actually goes on and what gets reported in MSM is quite often not that accurate.
I don't know if you remember but certainly over the last decade or more there have been numerous winters where the NHS has had a crisis of Bed shortages with people left in corridors and in ambulances having to be used as beds because hospitals were overwhelmed.
Currently there are 163,000 beds in the NHS, google how many are covid patients.
I am not trying to minimise what has happened but am trying to get a sense of proportion. Thats all.
Am not sure who will hunting is either
I thought it was mapp
I was sitting here on Google
Aim is a game
It can be a pain
Does will eat pot noodle?