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I have no desire to engage in a willy-waving contest with the rest of Europe! It never ends well.
"We are already the laughing stock of Europe"
If by "we" you are referring to our Parliament, i would suggest we may also be the laughing stock of the UK
I also was a remainer as I knew that this sort of mess was inevitable. The EU had a duty to make life hard for us if we left or everyone would leave. Now I am a staunch leaver. We are already the laughing stock of Europe so we need to stick 2 fingers up to them even if it is just to show that they need us more than we need them.
God I hope the UK does leave. .. its unbearable! The years of indecision and I am a remainer.... lets get this done and move on.
Get over it Bubbles....article 50 will not be revoked. We are leaving. The choice is deal or no deal - but we are leaving
Hope the talks fail. Bear in mind that Aviva will be getting on for £6 per share if article 50 is revoked.
I presume its due to talk of a Brexit deal. It'll fall back down when the talks collapse tomorrow lol.
The faint whiff of a deal?
why up 6% ?
No deal yet - buy just imagine what the share price could be if a deal got through both the UK and EU - at least £5.00 and probably a lot more!
Perfect summary - stop blaming everyone else for your own discontentment! Get on and make the most of every moment!
Not strictly correct.
Jan 2016 around 500
Then plunged to 346 on 27.6.16
Recovered to 550 by 18th May '18
Now at 378, marginally higher than the day after the Ref.
So to say it "never recovered" after the Ref. is misleading and tries to lay the blame solely on the Ref. when we all know
the lack of a Captain at the helm for some considerable time did the SP no good, that, and an apparent lack of direction for the future.
As for the rest of your comment, a bit far fetched to say the least. We are all frustrated it's true, and disappointed, but purely because the people we pay to run the country seem incapable of getting their act together and putting this thing to bed one way or another.Then we can all get on with our lives without the hideous spectacle of grown men and women behaving like spoilt brats. Is it any wonder there exists a strong feeling of "repressed anger and discontentment" amongst the general populace when they see such behaviour on a daily basis.
As for "taking responsibility" etc. I'm sure most people do that on a daily basis without any thought of blaming the Brexit fiasco. They don't need to-the guttersnipe press does it for them.
In January 2016 the Aviva share price was over £5 a share.
It began falling in the weeks leading up to the referendum and then plunged
and it's never recovered.
Now if you want to look at it differently that's fair enough.
In terms of the EU, I will tell you what I think, I think the EU is an easy target
for people's frustrations and disappointments in life. An easy target for
repressed anger and discontentment.
And once we have left and those people don't feel any better, there will be another scapegoat.
Instead of taking responsibility at improving their own lives, it's so much easier to blame someone/something else, but never themselves.
It's a car crash.
When I said "deal with it" of course I meant get out of the car before it happens!
The collateral damage of a hard Brexit will be severe and long lasting - I guess a strong Brexit ideology has its price and in years to come people may realise that the EU despite its fault is a much more democratic force for good than they might have thought in the past.
Well - I am from Ireland living in Northern Ireland. I hold no sympathy for the current position the UK is in - for the last three and a half years almost your politicians have failed you - not one or two - all of them. Your Government has entered into an agreement with the DUP (representing 30% of the population) - the most hated party in NI to exercise a veto over all of Northern Ireland. Meanwhile, we wait month after month to understand whether we will be EU citizens or not. As an Irish passport holder, but a supporter of the Union for over 20 years, this whole exercise in supposed democracy has led me to hold the view that NI is better served within Ireland and the EU and I stand by that 100% now. I hope Brexit goes through as soon as possible - a hard Brexit preferable now and we, on our little Island comprising 56% who want to stay in the EU, can get on and integrate with Ireland. I used to look up to the UK - unfortunately I don't anymore - I wish the UK well - or rather whatever parts of it that want to become independent in a globalised world!
Sorry, I missed out two adjectives- my last sentence should have read"..... morally and financially corrupt dictatorship..."
The Aviva share price fell substantially prior to the referendum, that is a fact. Agreed the markets have dropped mainly due to the uncertainty. In recent times.
Ask yourself this are the UK in a worse position enonomy wise the rest of Europe currently? When the next EU member country fails the way Greece did would you want to bea member of the clique providing the finance to bail them out? I know where I stand.
You deliberately miss the point DC2007.
We were told it would be an Economic Community which is an obvious no brainer. By stealth and political chicanery, aided and abetted by sycophantic self seeking politicians we became, gradually, a member of an organisation which dictates to us how we run our country and live our lives.
You, presumably, are happy living under a dictatorship- 17 million of us are not.
I also completely agree
Why not, Warthog4, just say you don't want to be part of Europe instead of employing flaky arguments? Like the acolyte who applauded you implied, it's feeling and sentiment that guides, not reason.
Where we are is on the edge of a UK recession with the Aviva share price
having been decimated.
So yes, deal with it.
Congratulations on a brilliant resume, I fully agree with every word and sentiment expressed.
Never in my life .I am 81 ,have I seen so much dishonesty being broardcast and written in the Media and by Politicians .Thank you
I too know exactly what I voted for-severance from the most corrupt gravy train on earth.
You are all seasoned investors-ask yourself the question would you invest your clients' money in an organisation where the accountants have qualified the "accounts" ( they are a laugh in themselves) for many years: where the BoD is totally unelected: where said BoD and hangers on enjoy limitless perks and expenses which do not require any form of accountability: where billions have gone "missing" over the years: where theft of assets is rife (an audit of "Head Office" several years ago found that about £6 million of equipment had gone "missing"): where there is a total lack of accountability to the shareholders and moreover it dictates to said shareholders what they can and can not do without fear of any comeback.
Then on top of all that this "company" has imposed its own regulations ("laws") which overrides our own laws which have been fine tuned and nurtured over a period of 921 years.
Would you give such an organisation £211m per week (2018 figure)-c'mon- be honest.
Three more points arise.
Twenty years after the odious Heath took us into the EEC he was asked if he had realised that the ultimate goal was a Federal Europe and snapped back that of course he had. He just didn't bother to tell anybody that we were to be split into "regions" ( the full title of the EU is "The European Union of the Regions") doing away with centuries old counties or that our legal system would be subjugated to EU Law.
Secondly, consider this. There are many thousands of folk on very pleasant sinecures in the EU. What is bugging the Top Brass is that if the UK leaves others may get the same idea and their whole raison d'etre for being so bloody minded is based solely upon preservation of their own little kingdoms.
Thirdly, it is disingenuous to start slating Bojo-he inherited the dog's breakfast left behind by Theresa May. Would any of you be able to salvage the wreckage?
"We are, as they say, where we are. Deal with it." says AllAtSea. Agreed.
'nuff said-let's get back to daily routine.
Shouldn't affect Aviva at all in my view. They were for once well ahead of the game when they stared promoting the " same price for exus customers" Have to say I gave renewed my Household and Motor insurance and these were still very competitive.
There was a significant rise in travel insut of around 35% this year which was according to the person I spoke with a company decision. Having shopped around for me they were still very competitive though.