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Yes Gilen, they are market makers but though they can try to influence the market the ‘maker’ bit means they have to ‘make’ the market liquid which means setting a price that attracts buyers and sellers. Too high no buyers, too low no sellers and either way they don’t earn their spread.
The main reason I don’t like the constant blame being put on mms is that it can discourage investment every bit as much as a de-ramper - who wants to bet on a race if they think it is fixed?
Hexam... To coin a phrase, " it does what it says on the tin". Market Makers, means. Market Makers!
They troll these Bb's gleaning bits of info, that they can use to manoeuvre, and manipulate(MM again)! Sadly, it is the mindset, or rantings of the uninformed, that often get used to agitate an SP.
Just imagine for a moment, if all investors kept stum for 3-6mths, what would the Mm's do then? Go on true performance, not speculative spew, from know alls.
Xenor, yes, sorry I didn’t look at the price. It was 181 when I posted a minute before you, and 181 when I looked at the board again 13 minutes later and commented on your post.
I assumed, wrongly, that the price hadn’t change. My apologies!
Deano:
Only if Bitcoin goes up. That is what reactivates the buys on here.
You obviously haven't been watching
Kozzi, I don't deny there is the odd tree shake and other dubious practices and mms can certainly help create panic. But mms would have to have the combined magic of Merlin, Gandalf and Dumbledore to keep a share price down for so long. They are not that powerful. After all whilst some will panic on seeing a falling share price, others (the more astute) will see an opportunity. To me mms are just a convenient scapegoat for those disappointed in a share's performance.
At the end of the day it is a market place so eventually the 'right' price will emerge in the end. In my view it is just investor apathy/ignorance keeping it where it is but this should change once the reported financials take-off - but it is just my view and if others want to keep blaming mms for everything (and some do on every BB) then that's their prerogative.
Hexam, don't you remember the tree shakes and massive pit falls from Feb to March? People have been put off by this share because they don't know what will happen day-to-day, even though the fundamentals suggest one way or the other quite plainly. Lack of trust has scared many away with very strange trading practices.
Something must change.
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cant see Green boxs LOL
Whilst I disagree completely that mms are the main reason why the sp is where it is (I think it is more just investors being unaware of ARB, or at least its potential, as ultimately it is investor buys and sells that determine where the price goes) I do agree that a higher SP is inevitable once the fundamentals become much more obvious. At the latest this should be when the half year results are revealed which barring big BTC falls should show £25m+ in earnings - a huge leap from the year end-end figure.
NASDAQ would help too of course.
Xenor MY post was not aimed at you forgive me if you thought it was . It was K3VMC comments he/she should not tell other posters how to read information ? that is not what this BB is all about it is about the firms on the stock market
"That their was" of course should read "there was". Drat.
From day one of the ARB IPO this share has been a badly served stock by its MMs. I'm sure some were burnt when it soared briefly to circa 350p but they quickly hammered it back down to the safer risk levels for their day trading needs. That their was collusion with the OTC traders after listing there and that there still is, I have little doubt. All at the expense of we little folk. A Northern Association of Securities Dealers Automatic Quotation listing may be a fairer playing field for us all. If so it's worth listing for that alone . A higher SP inevitable if the London MM Mafioso are curbed. Of that I'm certain. ARB's fundamentals will see to that. Something MMs care not one jot about if they can greedily keep true day to day trading prices secret until their knowledge is fully exploited. Happening as I type.
"Fallen up by 1p? If you can’t read market makers, don’t invest."
Sorry but I can only comment on the share price at the time of making a post. It might be 10p up next week, maybe we should talk about that instead of your 1p up 5 minutes ago. If you look at the price against my post it was showing 177.5p which was down at the time.
If market capitalisation goes up it means more buys if it goes down more sells. Simple
Xenor
“ The share price has fallen. Usually indicative of more sells than buys.”
Fallen up by 1p? If you can’t read market makers, don’t invest.
Just do dummy sells/buys you can see they are marked wrong
all manipulation they want your shares cheap
"Most are buys just showing as sells again."
Based on what? The share price has fallen. Usually indicative of more sells than buys.
Buying at 178. MMs need stock for the next leg up, so the red is there to encourage sellers and deter buyers.
Most are buys just showing as sells again.
good news?
WHATS ALL the selling about hold for the good news coming