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Yes nice to see confident buyer(s) in those large late reported trades. Bodes well.
Ha ha yes i split it wrong
it was £116,958.88 mucksy.... still a confident buyer
Anyone looked at the link Haggis put up. Flicking through the pictures and the picture of the water supposedly the Thames looks like it has a turd floating in it.
03.07.20 11:22:39 21.70GBX 538,98 £1116,958.88
UK's largest desalination plant.
"The filtration of the treated water is carried out through three lines of reverse osmosis, and is mineralised and disinfected before being supplied to the consumers"
https://www.water-technology.net/projects/water-desalination/#:~:text=In%20response%2C%20Thames%20Water%20proposed,its%20kind%20in%20the%20world.
The difference between fuel cells and electrolysis is that the electrodes are very different. A fuel cell electrode could possibly be used in an electrolyser, but it wouldn't have very good efficiency or longevity, and vice versa for an electrolysis electrode.
However, De Nora make electrolysis electrodes, some of the best in the world.
Maybe. Its difficult to tell when reading. Can be taken out of context.
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Banana - "Thats is ridiculous AnneOwl, absolutely ridiculous.". I think Anne Owl's comment may have been tongue in cheek, perhaps/!Mayt….
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@richlist, just because AFC doesn't make electolysers doesn't mean they can't install them. Electrolysis is a key component in Hydrogen production. Electrolysis is the process of using electricity to split water into hydrogen and oxygen. This reaction takes place in a unit called an electrolyser. Electrolysers can range in size from small, appliance-size equipment that is well-suited for small-scale distributed hydrogen production to large-scale, central production facilities that could be tied directly to renewable or other non-greenhouse-gas-emitting forms of electricity production.
Thats is ridiculous AnneOwl, absolutely ridiculous.
I take it from that comment you are a petrochemical engineer. Oil refining is incredibly complex. Requiring multiple processes and temperatures to extract different fuel types.
Electrolysis and energy generation is a chemical reaction which utilises or produces 4 main ingredients, power, water, hydrogen and oxygen.
I dont think it would take much to look at a fuel cell and reverse the process. Inputs become out puts and vice versa. Obviously losses in efficency.
Oil refining completely different.
Yes, very puzzling. The Energyst article gave me the impression it was Alkamem being used in the reverse osmosis process of the desalination, which as far as I know is distinct from electolysis. Would be great to have clarification. Both articles sound very definite about it. Could all be a mistake though.
And my car is basically an oil refinery in reverse, I didn't think of just reversing the process to make petrol!
Perhaps thats not always how-things-work...
surely an electrolyser is a fuel cell in reverse.
Water and electric in - hydrogen and oxygen out
Hydrogen and oxygen in - water and electricity out.
If AFC have the holy grail of fuelcell systems why would they not be able to reverse the process to make the gases using Alkamem membrane and have the holy grail of electrolyser.
aha, the penny really is dropping on the electrolysers. Moving to the 22p as mentioned earlier
They don't but Acciona may use the De Nora/Thyssen Electrolyser with Alkamem membrane
Odd that the ask traders article (thanks alwaysone) also mentions that AFC energy are due to install electolysers in UKs biggest desalination plant. AFC don't make electrolysers, so this is clearly not quite right, but what is this about and why have we not been told about something likely to be so price sensitive.
Ooh move higher. No commitment there.
I will commit to my opinion that for AFC to be successful they need orders to be placed short term. I think that is inevitable now that that will happen.
Whe this does happen the SP will move quickly and find resistance around the £1 per share mark before moving through and reaching £1.50.
I see no reason why the AFC MCap with 666 million shares in issue would be any less than CWR or ITM. but i will settle for £1bn and the £1.50 MCap for now.
Once they have the solid system in play I think this will put them on a global scale and potentially push the MCap to heights not seen for a fuel cell company before. This may be diluted a little in the SP as they will inevitably need more capital (perhaps) to manufacture multiple 2Mw solid systems for trains and ships but they will have free cash flow at some point which may minimise this impact.
18 to 36 month target of £2bn plus MCap and an SP of £2 plus
Ooh move higher. No commitment there.
I will commit to my opinion that for AFC to be successful they need orders to be placed short term. I think that is inevitable now that that will happen.
Whe this does happen the SP will move quickly and find resistance around the £1 per share mark before moving through and reaching £1.50.
I see no reason why the AFC MCap with 666 million shares in issue would be any less than CWR or ITM. but i will settle for £1bn and the £1.50 MCap for now.
Once they have the solid system in play I think this will put them on a global scale and potentially push the MCap to heights not seen for a fuel cell company before. This may be diluted a little in the SP as they will inevitably need more capital (perhaps) to manufacture multiple 2Mw solid systems for trains and ships but they will have free cash flow at some point which may minimise this impact.
18 to 36 month target of £2bn plus MCap and an SP of £2 plus
Couple of indicators here as well
https://www.asktraders.com/analysis/afc-energy-share-price-falls-even-after-raising-31-6-million/
AFC ENERGY SHARE PRICE FALLS EVEN AFTER RAISING £31.6 MILLION
With the current developments in its business and the global push to move to other energy sources, I feel over the next 12-months we could see AFC Energy move higher.
If they eventually sell EV charges as easily as they did the subscription share allocation, we have nowt to worry about.
Very big word 'if'.
Yes, spot on there Haggis!!
Considering it only took 3 hours to shift 187,500,000 shares I think they did pretty well regardless of the discount.
Anyway, we are now back above the closing orice from the day the RNS was released which is very positive reaction
I’ve never heard anything other than oversubscribed. Unlikely to ever say we just about managed to sell them...