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A late THANK YOU to you for answering my question, Agusta. What I value in this forum is the way people correspond with each other. Of course you get some rotten ones occasionally. But show me a place where they aren't.
Microsoft is doing the same - not sure where they are sourcing the power for it though
https://news.microsoft.com/innovation-stories/project-natick-underwater-datacenter/
Possibly Greenland too.. earths largest island.
https://www.computerworld.com/article/3431148/why-data-centres-are-the-new-frontier-in-the-fight-against-climate-change.html
https://www.computerworld.com/article/3431148/why-data-centres-are-the-new-frontier-in-the-fight-against-climate-change.html
Quietly, boring to some, but immensely exciting to me being a bit of a nerd!
Johnnie, the 2% I've seen a few places, I think it may be outdated now so may well be higher. As data center numbers grow and other industries de-carbonise, the 2% can quickly double. You'd imagine they would be on top of this as the spotlight could soon shine on this industry with a negative light.
Afi, I've lived in a few countries and the best way I can some up Norway is there is no stress in life, and far less than anywhere else I've lived. How the money is spent varies depending on who is in charge, though generally it is used wisely. The story behind how the Norwegian government made the profits from oil owned by the citizens is an interesting one, and a nice story of how the little man can stand up to the big man (the oil giants). I believe we will need a few more people willing to risk popularity and votes/members whatever it may be, to stand up and make decisions that will be unpopular at first, but benefit us in the future. I suppose we can all play a part in that too.
That’s very true JohnnieW, in this digital day and age data is vital and no operator can not take the slightest chance of any outage or loss. Contracts often have large penalties built in to cover such things, hence why you’ll see backup systems along with multiple backups for the backup. In addition a lot of top level data centres will also have backup sites in other locations. It is staggering what is needed nowadays.
Firstly thanks for that Augusta, very interesting and shows the possibilities.
‘ Although data centers seem boring on the outside, they are essential to our current lifestyle and a massively growing market.’
Boring they might seem but if AFC can tap into something that is such huge part of life nowadays then I couldn’t care how ‘boring’ it is. I’m all for Extreme E and the like but the potential is in the things like replacements for diesel gen sets, EVs etc. We all speculate as to what the market can be worth but if we’re really honest then none of us really has a clue. If the potential is realised then I do think we would look back in years to come and realise how much we under estimated the market.
Try this!
https://www.colo-x.com/data-centre/ark-data-centres-spring-park-campus/
Agusta. Thanks for the interesting links.
For us closer to home. This data-centre is on my doorstep and construction is still ongoing. Rolling road closures with impressive multi-module deliveries happen regularly right opposite the Hugh new MOD Complex.
https://www.colo-x.com/data-centre/ark-data-centres-park-campus/
Hi Agusta, Norway is one of those few places that the rest of us are looking for inspirations and hope. Kind of a beacon of light in the darkness if you will. At least for me as Norwegians strike me as level headed people in their majority. For example....the Norwegian State Fund. It is something that should be exemplatory for other countries no doubt. Are you being well informed about it as to what exactly is being in- or excluded and how do you really benefit from it? Sure, could be looked up online but it's probably better to ask someone like you.
Yes totally agree, so exciting. The growth rate of data centers is also mind boggling, and they already contribute 2% of global greenhouse emissions.
I'm expecting to see AFC and ABB in Norway sometime soon. Norway are really trying to become big in the European data canter market, couple that with the government announcement of a hydrogen infrastructure, a ban on fossil fuel ferries and many municipalities now turning to hydrogen ferries, plus many interesting companies now researching and developing long haul hydrogen/ammonia solutions for shipping, I think AFC could find a place in the market here.
Agusta,
What really excites me isn’t just the diversity of our potential market, it’s the sheer size of each of those. Mind boggling.
So I don't think I've brought this up before, now is a good time.
There is a disused mine in Norway which has been converted to a data center. Here are a couple of short videos for you to enjoy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=37OKOxJLjH0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oN9on73BmSs
Lefdal mine is not the only old mine being used for this, though as you may notice, this is Europe's largest green data center, and yes, ABB are behind it!
Although data centers seem boring on the outside, they are essential to our current lifestyle and a massively growing market. What is interesting is the technology behind them. So this particular Lefdal mine has it's own hydroelectric power supply and uses water from the nearby ocean for cooling. Some of these data centers produce far more power than required (40% as an example), and the heat produced can be used for other purposes.
So if these particular data centers produce more power than required, they don't require an AFC generator in there? Wrong! All of these data centers have multi-level redundancy systems including an array of backup generators - currently diesel. Brain storming with a coffee, I could see potential for using the excess power to produce hydrogen as an example.
With ABB already behind Europe's largest green data center, I'm excited thinking of what ABB and AFC may create to take the next step and create a completely green data center.